WalkingWolf
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Carrying a gun has never been about providing for society. It is about personal safety, the right to self defense. Not to be a wannabe cop, or fulfilling some fantasy of killing another person.
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CC at its finest
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Carrying a gun has never been about providing for society. It is about personal safety, the right to self defense. Not to be a wannabe cop, or fulfilling some fantasy of killing another person.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
Utter nonsense. The OC'er in Richmond Virginia shot the bad guy, the OC'er in Delaware shot the bad guys. The OC'ers in Georgia prevented a crime from happening and the cops arrested them.
All your arguments are fear based arguments.
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sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
Utter hogwash, making up intent where there is none.
No OC'er I know wishes the harm upon someone else, these two had no idea they stopped a robbery until after, so it was not their intent to have people robbed after them, intellectual dishonest argument.
WalkingWolf
Regular Member
I disagree, they are clearly hate based. There is a clear level of hate, much like the level of hate that spews from that idiot(Runaway Yeager)'s mouth. Sometimes I wonder where such hatred comes from, but then I remember I don't care, not my problem.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
FBI study shows that cop killers are a very specific subset of crooks.
No one here is anti CC, you are the anti OC and grasp at improbable lies and myths and unsubstantiated claims to prove your point.
Funny thing is you post this after I post an example of where it did stop a crime. (bolded)
Your narrow minded religious zealot like adherence to your belief of CC is better has been duly noted and is laughable.
g21sfpistol
Banned
way to break a forum rule and accuse me of wanting to kill people. i don't want to kill anyone. you will have to explain how I'm being a cop. if i was trying to be a cop i would be OCing and writing tickets. you obviously don't get the point I'm making. you are not an asset to society.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
Good point, although I would ad that it seems bigotry/hate goes hand in hand with fear. Which also seems to go hand in hand with ignorance.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
We really should just be glad that the citizen had a gun and justly used it. His manner of carry is irrelevant.
g21sfpistol
Banned
haha. fear based. the numbers game wins. CCers stop way more crimes and put more bad guys in jail which in turn makes society a better place.
g21sfpistol
Banned
im arguing a point just like you are. I'm not 100% against OC. i just don't think its the best way to carry unless its the ONLY way you can carry.
marshaul
Campaign Veteran
Yup. Increasingly evident.
Oh yes, without a doubt.
Right. Because A: CCers always kill their assailants, and B: pregnant mothers aren't able to arm themselves.
:lol:
More people CC = more crime is stopped by CC. It does not follow that CCers stop more crimes per capita than do OCers, and of course this is the operative datum.
Sir Diealotz
Regular Member
I see a pattern...
Every one of your threads gets locked...
I predict...
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Every one of your threads gets locked...
I predict...
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marshaul
Campaign Veteran
This thread is just adorable, btw. :lol:
Primus
Regular Member
Cite?
Not sure I've seen someone "formally" request this of you yet. So here goes.
You stated "the numbers games works. CCers stop way more crimes and put more bad guys in jail".
So now please back up said supposed facts with some sort of cite. We take that kind if thing pretty serious around here. Part of what makes this a great forum.
I'll wait patiently.
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OC Freedom
Regular Member
G21sfpistol I think you need to read this OC vs CC argument from www.Idahoopencarry.org/oc-vs-cc-argument/
I used to be a CC only guy, but with time and wanting to improve yourself in everyway you can as a person, you will come to realize that your hardline position may need to be reviewed. This is done by conversing with others, reading, thinking on subjects, and asking yourself honestly should I reconsider my beliefs. Do you still believe as you did when you were 5 years old, or 10, or 15, I would hope you do not. We are not your enemy. All of us on this site have come to a conclusion that Open Carry is the preferred way of carrying. So please if you need guidance in the way of Open Carry we are here to help, otherwise I'm sure you can find others to associate with on a CC site that would be happy to have you a member....
marshaul
Campaign Veteran
There was a time when the only argument I would have advanced for OC was "normalization of a right". Then, I started to think about it, rather than accepting received "wisdom".
I have since concluded that there are very few arguments in favor of CC which withstand any sort of scrutiny.
I have since concluded that there are very few arguments in favor of CC which withstand any sort of scrutiny.
Running Wolf
Campaign Veteran
I think you've all missed the point of the waffle house story. To wit:
They were carrying 1911s. If they had been carrying Glocks the armed robbers wouldn't have hesitated.
Another win for 1911s!
They were carrying 1911s. If they had been carrying Glocks the armed robbers wouldn't have hesitated.
Another win for 1911s!
g21sfpistol
Banned
yet none of you have given any cites on any statements you have made. you want my cites? i would assume that you read or watch anything SD related? the armed citizen section of the NRA magazine, local news stations, and national news stations are my cites. you read them every time you read about a SD shooting. this thread started with a cite and i reposted it with a video.
marshaul
Campaign Veteran
Sorry, none of the things you reference contain any statistics regarding the per capita rates of crime-deterrence generated by CCers vs OCers.
You fail.
g21sfpistol
Banned
if all you have done is talk with others and think i advise you take a weapons retention class and see how much situational awareness you really have and how much of a ninja you really are.
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