Open Carry on bicycles.

22Luke36 said:

If people are unwilling to ride a bike and go to court for a fight, all this talk about mounting up and earning our freedom someday if someone else starts it for us must be, fantasy?

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Well lead the way. Get on a bike and come ride down. Take lots of photos and be the "test case".

Otherwise more internet bravado.

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22Luke36 said:

If people are unwilling to ride a bike and go to court for a fight, all this talk about mounting up and earning our freedom someday if someone else starts it for us must be, fantasy?

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Who ever wants to try this, needs deep pockets. Remember, we're not talking about a slap on the wrist. You're going to need funding to take it all the way, if necessary. Otherwise, someone might get stuck with a felony record.

Small_Arms_Collector said:

Thought this might help:

MC: 257.79

MICHIGAN VEHICLE CODE (EXCERPT)
Act 300 of 1949


257.79 “Vehicle” defined.
Sec. 79.

“Vehicle” means every device in, upon, or by which any person or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a highway, except devices exclusively moved by human power or used exclusively upon stationary rails or tracks and except, only for the purpose of titling and registration under this act, a mobile home as defined in section 2 of the mobile home commission act, Act No. 96 of the Public Acts of 1987, being section 125.2302 of the Michigan Compiled Laws.


History: 1949, Act 300, Eff. Sept. 23, 1949 ;-- Am. 1976, Act 439, Imd. Eff. Jan. 13, 1977 ;-- Am. 1978, Act 568, Eff. Jan. 6, 1979 ;-- Am. 1992, Act 134, Eff. Oct. 1, 1992

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One thing I have not seen anyone comment on is the fact that a bicycle (as long as it has no motor) is "exclusively moved by human power"
Does that exclude it from the definition of a vehicle?

RyNinDaCleM said:

One thing I have not seen anyone comment on is the fact that a bicycle (as long as it has no motor) is "exclusively moved by human power"
Does that exclude it from the definition of a vehicle?

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I would think so but, I'm not a lawyer.

Big Gay Al said:

I would think so but, I'm not a lawyer.

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I get it! There is no safe assumption with firearms laws

I would be willing to try it out, once I get my CPL , of course. Just to see if they can stop me solely for the OC.

Lol. Legal gun owners always talk about getting their rights back someday in a revolution, but you're too ***** to ride a bike without permission.

You don't ask for freedom, you take it.

Sheldon said:

ON side note Galco shoulder rig for bicycle XDM .40 with spare mags.... tends to stay put and not flop around when properly used....

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I am in Washington State and we have similar laws. If you get in/on a vehicle, you are considered "concealed". Unlicensed(free) Open Carriers are required to unload before entering a vehicle. I find this excessive and unnecessary handling of the weapon an invitation to disaster. We are attempting to change this. That said, I open carry ALL the time and I have the required "permission" slip. In the car, on the motorcycle, on the bicycle, in the kayaks, all the time. I am using a fobus holster for my CZ EDC and have not had any difficulty carrying or drawing my weapon. Yes, I did practice from a moving motorcycle and bicycle, it works.

RyNinDaCleM said:

I get it! There is no safe assumption with firearms laws
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I find it is not the actual law, but the human interpretation of it. Two LEOs will look at it two ways. It is a roll of the dice,mate. Those few "bad apples" look like all the rest and may "interpret" the law as they see fit.


I have one of these VV

I honestly find a genuine and almost complete sense of satisfaction when someone has an ND because of such a law. My only hope is that some innocent is injured but not killed as a result of laws they probably supported.

22Luke36 said:

I honestly find a genuine and almost complete sense of satisfaction when someone has an ND because of such a law. My only hope is that some innocent is injured but not killed as a result of laws they probably supported.

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The problem with that, those in "charge" will blame the person handling the weapon, and not the circumstances that caused the ND.

That was no "Accident".