• We are now running on a new, and hopefully much-improved, server. In addition we are also on new forum software. Any move entails a lot of technical details and I suspect we will encounter a few issues as the new server goes live. Please be patient with us. It will be worth it! :) Please help by posting all issues here.
  • The forum will be down for about an hour this weekend for maintenance. I apologize for the inconvenience.
  • If you are having trouble seeing the forum then you may need to clear your browser's DNS cache. Click here for instructions on how to do that
  • Please review the Forum Rules frequently as we are constantly trying to improve the forum for our members and visitors.

The Last US Lead Mine closed

bhdpal

Regular Member
Joined
Sep 16, 2013
Messages
19
Location
Maryland
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...melting-plant-to-impact-ammunition-production

All lead for bullets will have to come from overseas! This move will also make the cost 100 LL (100 low lead aviation fuel) UNAFFORDABLE.
Approximately 2 g of lead is added to each gallon of aviation fuel!

There are numerous alarming reasons why the US government and the military have been buying up all the ammo. Here's one of them.

Obama and the EPA just shut down the last lead smelting plant in the US. They raised the EPA regulations by 10 fold and it would have cost the plant $100 million to comply. You can own all the guns you want, but if you can't get ammo, you are out of luck.

Remember when Obama promised his minions that he was working on gun control behind the scenes?

Welcome to it. Now, all domestic mined lead ore will have to be shipped overseas, refined and then shipped back to the US. Not only will ammo now be even harder to come by, the demand and the process of supply will cause the price to skyrocket even more.

And ponder this. there is an excellent chance that Obama will rig the market to where all ammo has to be purchased from a government entity instituting de facto ammo registration.

So much for the Second Amendment. There has not been a peep about this in the major news outlets and it is done.

With the US no longer producing lead, all supplies will now have to come from China, Australia or Peru, with the overwhelming emphasis on China. More
redistribution of wealth; more economic and liberty crippling of the US on tap.

The idiots at the EPA (evil protection agency) had this to say:
The U. S. Environmental Protection Agency said the company "made a business decision" to shut down the smelter instead of installing pollution control technologies needed to reduce sulfur dioxide and lead emissions as required by the Clean Air Act.

The Doe Run Co. announced last year that it had dropped plans to build a new lead processing facility in Herculaneum that would have used a new, cleaner lead production technology. The company cited the $100 million project as too financially risky.

The EPA is playing Mafioso I guess - we didn't make them shut down, they made a business decision. In other words, they pay the extortion, so the
thugs shut them down.

But Marxists will do or die and are doubling down on the destruction of energy in America, our way of life and the Constitution.

The smelting plant has known since 2010 this was coming. They couldn't stop it and no one else rose up to stop it either. The business had been in production
for 120 years and now goes the way of our auto industry.

The military's obsession with ammo was related to security and supply. They knew this was coming too, so they bought up all they could get before the plug was pulled. Screw the average American. It's as Chris Muir said, he's not as worried about where the bullets will come from, as much as how the government will deliver them and I'm right there with him on that one.

So, back door gun control is moving forward and while we are all distracted with shiny stuff, our Second Amendment rights are just about gone. Obama is one Marxist dictator who is savvy at political chess. He has flanked the Second Amendment. Now it's our move.
 

MAC702

Campaign Veteran
Joined
Jul 31, 2011
Messages
6,331
Location
Nevada
It wasn't the mine, it was the smelter. You even later say that our mined ore would be processed elsewhere and returned.

This has been a story for a time, and all the bullet manufactures have said they are getting their lead from recycled sources, not from freshly smelted ore.

Granted, there will now be more competition for the recycled sources.

Aviation gas unaffordable? How many plane owners are living paycheck to paycheck? 2g per gallon is going to make a difference in affordability? Gas has already tripled in price without worrying about 2g of lead in every gallon affecting that price. I don't see that having a significant impact, much less making it "unaffordable."

But yes, I'm on your side here. The EPA is out of control. We can cut back on emissions without strangling our producers in the process.
 
Last edited:

solus

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 22, 2013
Messages
9,315
Location
here nc
misguided hype!!

shall we clear the air for a moment...this is olde news from OCT 13. http://www.stltoday.com/business/lo...cle_56182c9f-0413-59a5-865e-e864715f3c2d.html

two only thing correct in your article as pointed out in this factual article is it is the last 'primary' smelter using raw materials.

ammo is normally made from recycled lead batteries at 'secondary' US smelters as explained in this article:

http://www.factcheck.org/2013/12/no-back-door-gun-control/

thanks for letting me clear the air like the EPA did in concert with the Doe Run management ~ before the president was elected!

ipse
 
Last edited:
Top