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who makes the Marines look bad -- this guy -think the military protects constitution?
- Thread starter davidmcbeth
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marshaul
Campaign Veteran
I'm sorry, who's the one trying to sound like a tough guy now?
stealthyeliminator
Regular Member
Meh
The marines in the video need it more than I, me thinks.
Next time I'll try to tone it down.
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sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
I am pre your generation.......what does that have to do with anything? Some of my ancestors lived here for thousands of years some came in the 1600's others a little later.......the flag is a symbol of the government.
The flag is like the gun an inanimate object whatever personifications you put upon it is solely your own.
Government is crooked.
+1
A first generation guy should understand that whole states like Virginia reserved the right to denounce and withdraw from the union, they should also understand that it was the states that ratified the document that made the union possible.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
+1 Assault can be rightfully repelled.
I find it amusing that he wants to go after the guy who is defending himself not the guy who said he was going to attack someone for exercising a right.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
OH please, fallacy much?
marshaul
Campaign Veteran
I don't recall ever saying that, but if you need to make incorrect assumptions about others in order to make sense of the world, go right ahead. I can also see how beating up straw men might be more satisfying than engaging with others honestly.
I don't love Virginia because it has an untarnished history. That would be a fool's errand. For instance, slavery has existed everywhere on earth at one time or another. It persisted in parts of Europe (in the form of serfdom – which is, yes, a form of slavery; the word "serf" comes from the latin servus or slave) until the 20th century. That doesn't make slavery right, but it does suggest that, if the absence of a history of slavery is a necessary prerequisite for moral patriotism, every person on earth should hate their homeland.
Furthermore, I don't favor states' rights because I'm a crypto-racist (although that is a convenient assumption for the weak of intellect). I am on record here repeatedly arguing that, if there is a single valid purpose to a federal government, it is to ensure a minimum standard of civil right recognition, such as by preventing states from allowing slavery, or other infringements of individual right (usually here it's gun rights, but the principle is the same).
I favor states' rights because I'm a voluntarist, and voluntary collective action (of the sort necessary to establish a non-coercive society) is far easier on a small scale. For this reason, and this reason alone, I oppose too-powerful central government – and statists support it to their dying breath.
Incidentally, this sort of thing is classic troll behavior. Don't think that's escaped anybody here.
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Please, by all means, offer me a retort.
Simply saying"huh uh!" means nothing.
marshaul
Campaign Veteran
Uh huh.
I offered plenty for a person genuinely interested in conversation to respond to. It's become quite evident, however, that that person is not you.
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sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
If you want to argue about the civil war start another thread. Your reply was a fallacy reply that doesn't deserve a "retort".
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
Project much?
Freedom1Man
Regular Member
It was never about slavery. Slavery was still legal in the North until sometime after the end of the war of Northern Aggression.
Wrong. The South threw a temper tantrum and seceded when President Lincoln outlawed slavery. When told to back it up, the south attacked a northern fort, thus sealing its fate.
Slavery is bad. Confederacy is dead. Get over it.