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    Proof that PD internal investigations are bogus -- cop drunk & driving

    http://wpri.com/2014/03/31/officer-a...-before-crash/

    “The accident became the subject of a police department internal investigation. I cannot comment on this any further because I do not want to prejudice the process,” McCartney said.


    Why would this not just be a regular criminal investigation?

    Since you cannot do anything more with a internal investigation than you can with a standard criminal investigation (or it would violate due process) then this indicates that internal investigations give more lax standards than those that we are subjected to.

    "does not want to prejudice the process"...what, a process that covers things up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    http://wpri.com/2014/03/31/officer-a...-before-crash/

    “The accident became the subject of a police department internal investigation. I cannot comment on this any further because I do not want to prejudice the process,” McCartney said.


    Why would this not just be a regular criminal investigation?

    Since you cannot do anything more with a internal investigation than you can with a standard criminal investigation (or it would violate due process) then this indicates that internal investigations give more lax standards than those that we are subjected to.

    "does not want to prejudice the process"...what, a process that covers things up?
    Why not a dual investigation.... one INTERNAL whereby employment may be at risk for violation of employer mandates and the other EXTERNAL by the PROSECUTOR where charges are filed and upon conviction of a violation of the state's laws the offender in sentenced per the court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeSparky View Post
    Why not a dual investigation.... one INTERNAL whereby employment may be at risk for violation of employer mandates and the other EXTERNAL by the PROSECUTOR where charges are filed and upon conviction of a violation of the state's laws the offender in sentenced per the court.
    Why not just fire the guy and stop wasting taxpayers $$.

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    The entire American system of police or DA's investigating police needs to be replaced with a different system. I propose a civilian board that has subpoena power and can also obtain search warrants from a judge.

    The board would be able to convene grand juries as well.

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    Upon further consideration: First--- an OFF DUTY officer was allegedly texting and driving, driving after drinking, driving on the wrong side of the road and involved in an incident I will refer to as VEHICULAR NEGLIGENCE. The off-duty officer should face any and all appropriate charges for violations of law and upon conviction face the penalty.

    Second--- ALL THE OFFICER"S INVOLVED IN THE COVERUP SHOULD BE TRIED AND CONVICTED AND NEVER WORK AS POLICE OFFICERS AGAIN.

    As I tried to teach my kids---- no matter what you've done the COVERUP IS ALWAYS WORSE!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    The entire American system of police or DA's investigating police needs to be replaced with a different system. I propose a civilian board that has subpoena power and can also obtain search warrants from a judge.

    The board would be able to convene grand juries as well.
    Eliminating public workers' unions is also a good place to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Eliminating public workers' unions is also a good place to start.
    You are correct. I am strongly opposed to public employee unions. However, I think maybe a more practical solution would be to allow them to unionize but to not allow the union to make political donations.

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