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    The Ferry Tale 3 ..They can't do that, but they did

    Very soon, maybe tomorrow, we'll start the Ferry Tale 3.
    This is not a brandishing case, but in some ways more disturbing.

    There are still a few loose ends I need to make sure are tied up but before I start, there is one aspect of this case that won't be discussed. More on that later but because of circumstances, I pointedly told the person involved NOT to tell me anything about that part and rather than argue about it later here....I'll just ignore that part of the discussion. Stay tuned for Grapeshot, Skidmark or myself to open the curtain.

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    Teaser

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    Quote Originally Posted by rev.david View Post
    Teaser

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    Not really, Just a thread opener. This is one of those incidents that look questionable on first telling, but is well documented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rev.david View Post
    Teaser

    ...Coming soon!
    Better to not open your mouth and be thought the fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

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    Waiting with worms on my tongue (baited breath)

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    *grabs popcorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by rev.david View Post
    Waiting with worms on my tongue (baited breath)
    "Or shall I bend low and in a bondman’s key with bated breath and whispering humbleness say this: 'Fair sir, you spet on me on Wednesday last; you spurned me such a day; another time you called me "dog" — and for these courtesies I’ll lend you thus much moneys?'"

    Like abate, as in "to hold back".

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    Puns ARE allowed here...I read the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rev.david View Post
    Puns ARE allowed here...I read the rules.
    Sure. But only really bad ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice I, 3 Shylock Line 451

    Shakespeare used bated 8 times, twice in 'Merchant'.
    The second one in "Merchant" isn't followed by breath. What about the others?

    I wonder if that was a common phrase at the time or if, like so many others, the happy marriage of the words "bated" and "breath" is ultimately of Shakespearean origin.

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    Wail (or is it whale?) all you want, but if you are going to throw thoughts around you need to provide citations that back up your perorations. Try this for starters: http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/bated-breath.html .

    But then, there are the apologists who see the madness of mob rule as a convenient excuse to lower standards: h ttp://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/bated

    As for those of you with fishy breath on your minds, you are directed to: http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/edu...d-versus-bated

    I'm getting a large tub of popcorn - I'll need plenty for the hashing out of the spelling, and then some left over for the real festivities.

    stay safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Wail (or is it whale?) all you want, but if you are going to throw thoughts around you need to provide citations that back up your perorations. Try this for starters: http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/bated-breath.html .

    But then, there are the apologists who see the madness of mob rule as a convenient excuse to lower standards: h ttp://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/bated

    As for those of you with fishy breath on your minds, you are directed to: http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/edu...d-versus-bated

    I'm getting a large tub of popcorn - I'll need plenty for the hashing out of the spelling, and then some left over for the real festivities.

    stay safe.


    In one of the best selling books of all time, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (whose publisher could surely have afforded the services of a proof-reader), we have:

    "The whole common room listened with baited breath."
    Well, there you have it: all the proof one could want that J.K. Rowling is not, in fact, a serious writer.

    (How's that for a citation?! )
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    Hmm, intrigue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    Hmm, intrigue.
    Not only intrigue, but the game is afoot. "Bring your service revolver, Watson."

    stay safe.
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    This holster was empty fifteen minutes earlier last night.


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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    This holster was empty fifteen minutes earlier last night.

    Ugh, another plastic gun!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundar View Post
    Ugh, another plastic gun!

    What kind of example are we setting for our children??

    That good people can and do win!
    Hope that he saves the box in which it was returned - it is a trophy of sorts.
    Better to not open your mouth and be thought the fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    That good people can and do win!
    Hope that he saves the box in which it was returned - it is a trophy of sorts.
    You mean this box?

    for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    This holster was empty fifteen minutes earlier last night.

    If only there was a way to embed a song along with a photo... maybe hallelujah or the 1812 overture?

    This is great news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Young Man View Post
    If only there was a way to embed a song along with a photo... maybe hallelujah or the 1812 overture?

    This is great news.
    I probably will later!

    Short version and we will be filling in with details later.

    A couple of years ago, one of our members was at his fathers apartment in Richmond.
    He went outside to smoke a cigarette and was open carrying that gun.
    An off duty Richmond LEO working security stopped and a disagreement about many things including if he lived there occurred.
    She called for backup and more abusive officers arrived.

    Even though he had broken no laws and was not charged with anything, they took his gun.

    He spoke to me, Grapeshot and Skidmark, then on our advice retained Daniel Hawes, Esquire.

    Mr. Hawes sued everyone....the officers, the ex police chief, the city and the apartment complex.

    It took this long for things to come to a head.

    I will post public records and my observations since Grapeshot was responsible for service of the papers and I tagged along

    BUT....the last PUBLIC RECORD I saw was a settlement order signed by the judge.

    Neither Mr. Hawes or The OC'er would comment so I'm certain there was a confidentiality clause in the settlement agreement. That's my opinion and personal observation of other things

    Mr. Hawes gave the OC'er his gun back last night.

    Details later
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Young Man View Post
    If only there was a way to embed a song along with a photo... maybe hallelujah or the 1812 overture?

    This is great news.
    Then there are these appropriate sounds of triumph: William_Tell_Overture_Finale
    Better to not open your mouth and be thought the fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Good Guys win
    Thanks for the Cliffs notes and I look forward to the details when they are available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Even though he had broken no laws and was not charged with anything, they took his gun.
    I'm curious what their 'alleged' justification was for them taking his firearm? 'Officer safety'?

    Glad he got it back! Hopefully he was compensated enough to allow him to purchase a bunch more guns!!

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    Glad he got it back!

    What does "HFO" written on the evidence box mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blk97F150 View Post
    I'm curious what their 'alleged' justification was for them taking his firearm? 'Officer safety'?

    Glad he got it back! Hopefully he was compensated enough to allow him to purchase a bunch more guns!!
    Contempt of cop......while on private property and doing nothing illegal
    Better to not open your mouth and be thought the fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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