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    The next 2AFriendly project: State-by-state rankings.

    Working hard on our next project: State-by-state rankings. If you could choose, what other data would you like to see? Thanks for your input!

    (Coming soon to http://2AFriendly.com)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2AFriendly View Post
    Working hard on our next project
    Before doing this, I feel you should polish your existing product. The map and search functions work HORRIBLY. It is classifying business on walking/biking paths in my area that aren't actually public roads. Additionally, if I search for a business, clicking on pinned flags results in a business with the same name over 15 miles away coming up in the details portion of the application. If I click on the text-based search result and enter my rating there, the flag properly updates on my map that just pulled up the store from another zip code and part of town. I like the idea of the app and wanted to like it enough to purchase the additional functions, but it's not easily usable in current form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by z28power View Post
    Before doing this, I feel you should polish your existing product. The map and search functions work HORRIBLY. It is classifying business on walking/biking paths in my area that aren't actually public roads. Additionally, if I search for a business, clicking on pinned flags results in a business with the same name over 15 miles away coming up in the details portion of the application. If I click on the text-based search result and enter my rating there, the flag properly updates on my map that just pulled up the store from another zip code and part of town. I like the idea of the app and wanted to like it enough to purchase the additional functions, but it's not easily usable in current form.

    This is the first I've heard of these issues, but it sounds like there might be location data problems.

    The business data comes from google places. It's pretty good, but there are spots of imperfection.

    We'd like to help you and confirm these issues, if you don't mind. Please contact support and let us know what device you have, and what OS version; and if you're willing, your general location so that we can look at the place data. This would be very helpful - Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2AFriendly View Post
    This is the first I've heard of these issues, but it sounds like there might be location data problems.

    The business data comes from google places. It's pretty good, but there are spots of imperfection.

    We'd like to help you and confirm these issues, if you don't mind. Please contact support and let us know what device you have, and what OS version; and if you're willing, your general location so that we can look at the place data. This would be very helpful - Thank you.

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    I don't mind posting that I an located in metropolitan Las Vegas. Thank you for the email, I will follow up with you directly there to see if we can work out the issue :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by z28power View Post
    I don't mind posting that I an located in metropolitan Las Vegas. Thank you for the email, I will follow up with you directly there to see if we can work out the issue :-)

    Sent from my phone, so be gentle on my autocorrect spelling mistakes!
    Much appreciated, I look forward to your email... We'll also start examining some locations in the Vegas area...
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    Quote Originally Posted by z28power View Post
    Before doing this, I feel you should polish your existing product. The map and search functions work HORRIBLY. It is classifying business on walking/biking paths in my area that aren't actually public roads. Additionally, if I search for a business, clicking on pinned flags results in a business with the same name over 15 miles away coming up in the details portion of the application. If I click on the text-based search result and enter my rating there, the flag properly updates on my map that just pulled up the store from another zip code and part of town. I like the idea of the app and wanted to like it enough to purchase the additional functions, but it's not easily usable in current form.
    I agree 100%, scrolling around on the map just doesn't work. Virtually impossible to get the map to display in full screen, as trying to wipe the search box and list of the closest places down just doesn't work, or removes only one line listing a business and the distance.

    Pinch the map to see a larger area, and scroll the map toward where you want to look and 4 out of 5 times it snaps back to where you were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40sc View Post
    I agree 100%, scrolling around on the map just doesn't work. Virtually impossible to get the map to display in full screen, as trying to wipe the search box and list of the closest places down just doesn't work, or removes only one line listing a business and the distance.

    Pinch the map to see a larger area, and scroll the map toward where you want to look and 4 out of 5 times it snaps back to where you were.
    I think this has to do with the pins loading, thank you for reminding me. Any time you are trying to scroll around the map, the lag is terrible. If you try to scroll a second time before all the pins load, it moves back to the map view it just finished loading. Really annoying if you are trying to navigate by scrolling.

    Sent from my phone, so be gentle on my autocorrect spelling mistakes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40sc View Post
    I agree 100%, scrolling around on the map just doesn't work. Virtually impossible to get the map to display in full screen, as trying to wipe the search box and list of the closest places down just doesn't work, or removes only one line listing a business and the distance.

    Pinch the map to see a larger area, and scroll the map toward where you want to look and 4 out of 5 times it snaps back to where you were.
    Quote Originally Posted by z28power View Post
    I think this has to do with the pins loading, thank you for reminding me. Any time you are trying to scroll around the map, the lag is terrible. If you try to scroll a second time before all the pins load, it moves back to the map view it just finished loading. Really annoying if you are trying to navigate by scrolling.

    Sent from my phone, so be gentle on my autocorrect spelling mistakes!
    Thank you for the excellent detailed feedback - we though we had the map issue beat, but we don't have all android devices to test on. We'll fix this and release a patch ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2AFriendly View Post
    Thank you for the excellent detailed feedback - we though we had the map issue beat, but we don't have all android devices to test on. We'll fix this and release a patch ASAP.

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    I did send additional feedback to the email address you mentioned as well. :-) cheers

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    Thank you! We really appreciate it. Android is a maze of devices and compatibility issues, and we always need detailed feedback from android users.


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    I've been using it some so far and have not come across any real problems. For the record, I'm using an Android based HTC Desire C. One minor complaint would be that when viewing the map, you can't make the list of locations go away completely, as XD40sc mentioned. And the lack of results in my area, but that's not your fault.

    The ranking would be an interesting tidbit of info.
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    And yet there are places in Virginia I can OC that I am not allowed to in North Carolina, so how come they get ranked #1? Oh, I see, it's a popularity contest based on how many folks choose to vote, as opposed to actual objective rankings. Sort of like "social media" *hack, spit*.

    Still might be good for checking out places, but based on the lack of the website actually doing anything I think I'll wait for version 3.0 or so. Sort of like giving everybody else the chance to buy the newest gun behind the counter, find all the bugs, and let the manufacturer work out the kinks. I know someone has to be the beta tester; I'm just not up for the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    And yet there are places in Virginia I can OC that I am not allowed to in North Carolina, so how come they get ranked #1? Oh, I see, it's a popularity contest based on how many folks choose to vote, as opposed to actual objective rankings. Sort of like "social media" *hack, spit*.
    Yes. Clearly the ranking algorithm needs to be modified such that Virginia is always on top.


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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    And yet there are places in Virginia I can OC that I am not allowed to in North Carolina, so how come they get ranked #1? Oh, I see, it's a popularity contest based on how many folks choose to vote, as opposed to actual objective rankings. Sort of like "social media" *hack, spit*.

    Still might be good for checking out places, but based on the lack of the website actually doing anything I think I'll wait for version 3.0 or so. Sort of like giving everybody else the chance to buy the newest gun behind the counter, find all the bugs, and let the manufacturer work out the kinks. I know someone has to be the beta tester; I'm just not up for the job.

    stay safe.
    All that was based on the itty-bitty-mockup I posted above?
    Virginia is 8th in total ratings by the way

    But Virginia does have the highest percentage of open carry ratings... 37% of total:
    http://2afriendly.com/2afriendly-state-rankings.php

    In time, as the total data grows, the rankings will become more meaningful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveT319 View Post
    I've been using it some so far and have not come across any real problems. For the record, I'm using an Android based HTC Desire C. One minor complaint would be that when viewing the map, you can't make the list of locations go away completely, as XD40sc mentioned. And the lack of results in my area, but that's not your fault.

    The ranking would be an interesting tidbit of info.
    Thanks for the input. We're working on making the map operate smoother, but it's working decently for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2AFriendly View Post
    All that was based on the itty-bitty-mockup I posted above?
    Virginia is 8th in total ratings by the way

    But Virginia does have the highest percentage of open carry ratings... 37% of total:
    http://2afriendly.com/2afriendly-state-rankings.php

    In time, as the total data grows, the rankings will become more meaningful.
    I see that someone has added every school and Starbucks in NC.

    Anyway, shouldn't Starbucks be "neutral"? It's hard to describe "welcoming and serving" armed customers by policy as "unfriendly".

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    I see that someone has added every school and Starbucks in NC.

    Anyway, shouldn't Starbucks be "neutral"? It's hard to describe "welcoming and serving" armed customers by policy as "unfriendly".
    The CEO himself asked that gun carriers don't bring their guns in... that's unfriendly in my book
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2AFriendly View Post
    The CEO himself asked that gun carriers don't bring their guns in... that's unfriendly in my book
    He also stated that policy would continue to be to, and I quote, "welcome and serve" armed customers.

    To me, "I'll welcome and serve you but would slightly prefer you leave the gun at home" is the definition of "neutral." What else could "neutral" possibly mean? If that's "anti", then what do you call actually anti establishments you know, those that will eject carriers? Super-anti?

    Whatever. Your app. Do as you see fit. I ain't gonna rehash that issue.

    What I will say is this is why I find others' appraisal of any situation of limited (if any) value. I guess I'm just not the social media type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2AFriendly View Post
    Thanks for the input. We're working on making the map operate smoother, but it's working decently for you?
    So far no problems that can't be easily adapted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveT319 View Post
    So far no problems that can't be easily adapted to.
    Thanks - you know where to find me if you have issues!
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    Its a good idea. Just make sure Hawaii is rated at the bottom of the list. right now it is a green OC state and should really be bright red with a skull and crossbones across it

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    Not going to include places like Panama?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Not going to include places like Panama?
    You mean US territories like Guam, etc? Assuming so, that's not really our target audience. The research I've done suggests these places don't really act like the US in terms of gun rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesCanby View Post
    No problems so far, on my Android-based Samsung Galaxy 3.
    Thanks James - how's the map working on your particular device?
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