A reason to avoid the Pacific Science Center

Freedom1Man · Apr 10, 2014

Pacific Science Center is a weapons-free property.

http://www.pacificsciencecenter.org/Visit/guest-guidelines

FRIGGING 'ell

Now I never want to go there again.

tombrewster421 · Apr 10, 2014

Um, who owns it? City of Seattle?

Preemption should apply. Just like every other place Seattle tries to ban carrying. They will never learn.

Also, can they claim they are acting in the role of a business when they are tax exempt?

Freedom1Man · Apr 10, 2014

tombrewster421 said:
Um, who owns it? City of Seattle?

Preemption should apply. Just like every other place Seattle tries to ban carrying. They will never learn.

Also, can they claim they are acting in the role of a business when they are tax exempt?

They are claiming to be a private tax exempt org that is there to benefit the public.

Like "Goodwill" is a nonprofit.

NavyMike · Apr 10, 2014

tombrewster421 said:
Um, who owns it? City of Seattle?

Preemption should apply. Just like every other place Seattle tries to ban carrying. They will never learn.

Also, can they claim they are acting in the role of a business when they are tax exempt?

It's a private and independent non-profit.

They used to lease the property from the city for a $1 per year.
The deeds were signed over in 2004 and the Foundation now has ownership.

mikeyb · Apr 10, 2014

Freedom1Man said:
Pacific Science Center is a weapons-free property.

http://www.pacificsciencecenter.org/Visit/guest-guidelines

FRIGGING 'ell

Now I never want to go there again.

I don't think they're that strict about it. The last time I went was for the King Tut exhibit, and I'm pretty sure I had my not-so-discreet pocket knife. Maybe they just mean guns.

tombrewster421 · Apr 10, 2014

mikeyb said:
I don't think they're that strict about it. The last time I went was for the King Tut exhibit, and I'm pretty sure I had my not-so-discreet pocket knife. Maybe they just mean guns.

Well I had my gun with me at the king Tut exhibit. They just didn't see it.

slapmonkay · Apr 10, 2014

I carried there about 1.5 years ago and did not have any problems.

Freedom1Man · Apr 11, 2014

Regardless of what's been done, it's in writing that they can get ugly on us for carrying there.

Pacific Science Center Guest Guidelines

Pacific Science Center is a weapons-free property.
Pacific Science Center is a tobacco-free property, including all outdoor spaces.
While pets are not permitted inside Pacific Science Center, service animals are welcome.
All youth under 14 must be accompanied by an adult. All ages 18 and under may require accompaniment by an adult as dictated by group policy.

massivedesign · Apr 14, 2014

Seattle has verbiage in the lease that they shall prohibit firearms.

sudden valley gunner · Apr 14, 2014

More an more reasons to try and avoid Seattle.

amlevin · Apr 20, 2014

I now avoid the PSC completely. Last time I was there the place was overrun by a bunch of kids running everywhere and screeching at the top of their lungs. think the average age in the place was around 8 years of age with too few parents for the number of kids there.

Really enjoyable to pay admission, go look at a display, and get pushed out of the way by 3-4 kids that just jam themselves in front of you.

I can see why they'd have a "no guns" policy

EMNofSeattle · Apr 20, 2014

sudden valley gunner said:
More an more reasons to try and avoid Seattle.

I've open carried in seattle. Never had any issues,,,,,,,, never at PSC but in various downtown areas

Freedom1Man · Apr 20, 2014

EMNofSeattle said:
I've open carried in seattle. Never had any issues,,,,,,,, never at PSC but in various downtown areas

Same here, I rarely, have problems OC in DT Seattle.

I've had the police visit with me while shopping one time, heard a call about me in the bus tunnel, oh yeah had trouble trying to walk on the ferry one day, and then the WSCC issue.

So, 3 times with only 2 contacts.

sudden valley gunner · Apr 21, 2014

EMNofSeattle said:
I've open carried in seattle. Never had any issues,,,,,,,, never at PSC but in various downtown areas

I have too. Wasn't my point.

Contrarian · Apr 21, 2014

PSC guidelines

Freedom1Man said:
Regardless of what's been done, it's in writing that they can get ugly on us for carrying there.

"Pacific Science Center Guest Guidelines
Pacific Science Center is a weapons-free property.
Pacific Science Center is a tobacco-free property, including all outdoor spaces.
While pets are not permitted inside Pacific Science Center, service animals are welcome.
All youth under 14 must be accompanied by an adult. All ages 18 and under may require accompaniment by an adult as dictated by group policy."

As to the service dog statement...WA has no requirement or certification process; just say that your purse-sized Pommie is a service dog and in you go.

The rest of these 'guidelines' are equally vague.

Freedom1Man · Apr 21, 2014

Contrarian said:
"Pacific Science Center Guest Guidelines
Pacific Science Center is a weapons-free property.
Pacific Science Center is a tobacco-free property, including all outdoor spaces.
While pets are not permitted inside Pacific Science Center, service animals are welcome.
All youth under 14 must be accompanied by an adult. All ages 18 and under may require accompaniment by an adult as dictated by group policy."

As to the service dog statement...WA has no requirement or certification process; just say that your purse-sized Pommie is a service dog and in you go.

The rest of these 'guidelines' are equally vague.

Okay, you test it, let us all know how well it turns out. Okay?

mikeyb · Apr 22, 2014

Freedom1Man said:
Okay, you test it, let us all know how well it turns out. Okay?

Because of the ADA, you cannot be asked what the "disability" the service animal is for. The only requirement is that the animal is identified as a service animal, which is easily enough to do with the Internet.

ITT: Service animal owner

Freedom1Man · Apr 22, 2014

mikeyb said:
Because of the ADA, you cannot be asked what the "disability" the service animal is for. The only requirement is that the animal is identified as a service animal, which is easily enough to do with the Internet.

ITT: Service animal owner

I was talking about the OC part. I know very well about service animal part.

Please read the full context.

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