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    Are those federal officers ?

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    ? Anyone else see that dude get in the officers face then kick the dog?

    Yea good video. Shows how it started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    Wow. I just saw this video on fox news. Guess what they left out? They really left out the dude in the plaid shirt getting in the officers face then kicking the dog..they convientantly left that portion out and only showed them sparking the tasers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    ? Anyone else see that dude get in the officers face then kick the dog?

    Yea good video. Shows how it started.

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    You're a ******* idiot. Everyone sees the same ******* video, Primus. Don't come in here and act like you're pointing something out to us that we've missed. You're an apologist - you are here to scan the video and try to find justification, any justification, for the officer's actions. The fact of the matter is they aren't justified in being there in the first place! I posted a video of this incident in the main thread on this ordeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    ? Anyone else see that dude get in the officers face then kick the dog?

    Yea good video. Shows how it started.
    which video and at what time ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator View Post
    You're a ******* cop, Primus.
    fixed it for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    which video and at what time ?
    Very first video. The first 10 seconds or so. You see the guy with the plaid shirt walk past the guy with the dog towards the other officer telling at him. The dog jumps up because he's walking at the officer so he kicks the dog in the face. Also a short time later in the video the same man in plaid is literally being held back from charging the officers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator View Post
    You're a ******* idiot. Everyone sees the same ******* video, Primus. Don't come in here and act like you're pointing something out to us that we've missed. You're an apologist - you are here to scan the video and try to find justification, any justification, for the officer's actions. The fact of the matter is they aren't justified in being there in the first place! I posted a video of this incident in the main thread on this ordeal.
    Oh I see. So you saw the same dude go at the officer and kick the dog? But get pissed when I point that out?

    That makes me an apologist?

    Your little tantrum just now was cute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Oh I see. So you saw the same dude go at the officer and kick the dog? But get pissed when I point that out?

    That makes me an apologist?

    Your little tantrum just now was cute.

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    I specifically stated what makes you an apologist.
    Your question is either a show of denial or a diversion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Wow. I just saw this video on fox news. Guess what they left out? They really left out the dude in the plaid shirt getting in the officers face then kicking the dog..they convientantly left that portion out and only showed them sparking the tasers.

    Dirty.

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    Isn't that something. They conveniently left out the part where the nice officers threw a 57-year-old woman to the ground as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator View Post

    I specifically stated what makes you an apologist.
    Your question is either a show of denial or a diversion.
    Its neither nor. What is there to apologize for? The citizen were screaming at the officers. Were they yelling? Other then "get back"? Then that some kid decides he wants to go towards the officer? And boot a dog. They didn't even arrest him for it. Looked like restraint to me.

    This clearly wasn't some people peacefully protesting and exceeding their 1a rights. They are screaming and swearing at officers and blocking a road.

    Failing to see what I need to apologize for.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Its neither nor. What is there to apologize for? The citizen were screaming at the officers. Were they yelling? Other then "get back"? Then that some kid decides he wants to go towards the officer? And boot a dog. They didn't even arrest him for it. Looked like restraint to me.

    This clearly wasn't some people peacefully protesting and exceeding their 1a rights. They are screaming and swearing at officers and blocking a road.

    Failing to see what I need to apologize for.....

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    What makes you think they should have been peaceful in this regard? It appeared to me those folks were meeting force on force and your knights in shining armor got their azz handed to them. And, those disrespectful peons didn't even have dogs, firearms, and tazers at their disposal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Its neither nor. What is there to apologize for? The citizen were screaming at the officers. Were they yelling? Other then "get back"? Then that some kid decides he wants to go towards the officer? And boot a dog. They didn't even arrest him for it. Looked like restraint to me.

    This clearly wasn't some people peacefully protesting and exceeding their 1a rights. They are screaming and swearing at officers and blocking a road.

    Failing to see what I need to apologize for.....

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    I specifically stated what makes you an apologist. Your new questions are either a show of denial or a diversion.

    You enter every thread with an agenda to defend the actions of anyone on government payroll. You can start by apologizing for that. Like I said - you scan videos and articles for any shred of potential justification of the government's or government's agent's actions and you get so excited you almost piss yourself when you think you've found something.

    I had hope for this to change, but it hasn't. You've just learned to control it enough as to avoid the outright blatant lying and libel that you started with here on these forums.
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    Hey those officers were just following orders.......
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Oh I see. So you saw the same dude go at the officer and kick the dog? But get pissed when I point that out?
    What I saw is the man talking to a police officer at arms length and the police dog lunged and made a furtive movement at the man whereby the man used his leg and foot in self defense.
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    To begin with, why were the Federal Agents at the loaction.

    You also miss the arrivals of both parties at the scene, which from the description given on camera, had the police using aggressive tactics in an attempt to cowtow the people. This tactic backfired and the officers in the end, made a dash to leave(you see an officer running at the end)

    Why they did not arrest the man who automatically kicked at the lunging animal is obvious, they had no grounds to be there, let alone justify the dog lunging at a civilian. As a side note to that, they should not have brought the dogs to the situation, it is far to stressful and the chances that one of the dogs would do something out of the ordinary is way to high, as the video shows.

    And again, I did not see any guns on the civilians. They did not begin agressive behavior AND they are not trained law enforcement. The LEO's should have pulled back prior to resorting to violence due to the fact that the crowd was unarmed and other then yelling, was not aggressive, until they were attacked.

    Also notice how none of the people the LEO's tazed were arrested? Why taze someone and not arrest them? Oh, right, no grounds to be there, let alone taze people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Its neither nor. What is there to apologize for? The citizen were screaming at the officers. Were they yelling? Other then "get back"? Then that some kid decides he wants to go towards the officer? And boot a dog. They didn't even arrest him for it. Looked like restraint to me.

    This clearly wasn't some people peacefully protesting and exceeding their 1a rights. They are screaming and swearing at officers and blocking a road.

    Failing to see what I need to apologize for.....

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    He's not asking for an APOLOGY.
    He is, very rightly IMO, calling you an APOLOGIST for the actions of these costumed thugs.
    You will trip over yourself to defend the actions of the thugs while attempting to disparage the citizens.

    From Dictionary.com:
    ap·o·lo·gi·a [ap-uh-loh-jee-uh]
    noun
    1. an apology, as in defense or justification of a belief, idea, etc.
    2. Literature. a work written as an explanation or justification of one's motives, convictions, or acts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onus View Post
    What I saw is the man talking to a police officer at arms length and the police dog lunged and made a furtive movement at the man whereby the man used his leg and foot in self defense.
    I also feel Primas will side 99% of the time with fellow officers, it is part of the training to see things through "cop eyes" and conform to the "blue line". I don't blame him for it as it was part of his training. I commend him for having the balls to post on here for everyone to see the effectivness of his training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    Hey those officers were just following orders.......
    Give 'em the same treatment we used on those using the same excuse at Nuremberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocWalker View Post
    I also feel Primas will side 99% of the time with fellow officers, it is part of the training to see things through "cop eyes" and conform to the "blue line". I don't blame him for it as it was part of his training. I commend him for having the balls to post on here for everyone to see the effectivness of his training.
    I wasn't trained to see or conform to anything. Its called perspective. Its from life experiences. I find its a value to a group when you take that into consideration. Everyone learns from others. I my self have learned quiet a lot from some on this forum from guys from different backgrounds.

    Someone apparently needs to have the "balls" to point out ridiculous notions, assumptions, falsities, etc.

    Edit: for example this entire situation. This thread was started to show the .gov and leos in a bad light. Easy to fall for that trap. Except if you actually watch the video you see who exactly started the violence. Someone needed to point that out. It certainly wasn't going to be the OP.

    In fact, THAT fact hasnt even been talked about. I haven't seen anyone else post "hey he really shouldn't have assaulted the officer then kicked the dog" or "hey they are escalating this by screaming and swearing like a mob at them".

    Crickets..... because it doesn't conform to your training or beliefs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    I wasn't trained to see or conform to anything. Its called perspective. Its from life experiences. I find its a value to a group when you take that into consideration. Everyone learns from others. I my self have learned quiet a lot from some on this forum from guys from different backgrounds.

    Someone apparently needs to have the "balls" to point out ridiculous notions, assumptions, falsities, etc.

    Edit: for example this entire situation. This thread was started to show the .gov and leos in a bad light. Easy to fall for that trap. Except if you actually watch the video you see who exactly started the violence. Someone needed to point that out. It certainly wasn't going to be the OP.

    In fact, THAT fact hasnt even been talked about. I haven't seen anyone else post "hey he really shouldn't have assaulted the officer then kicked the dog" or "hey they are escalating this by screaming and swearing like a mob at them".

    Crickets..... because it doesn't conform to your training or beliefs.



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    No Primus, you perspective powers must be off....

    1. I have many LEO friends, Brothers, Family members, and co-workers. I myself have worked in LE and left in discuss even though I know some of my best friends are still working in the departments. I'm lucky enough to know 9-% of the officers in my small community are outstanding and good people. I have also seen cover-ups and officers lie under oath.

    2. The video shows intimidation by goverment thugs, it also shows a dog lunging at a citizen and the citizen reacting in a natural way. What you see is a uniform and a surf defying authority. This is what you have been trained to do, I have also I just had a new awareness when I opened my eyes. Out of everyone on here your the only one to point out that if someone is wearing a uniform they must be in the right and the other person must be the bad guy. You have been programed you just deny it.

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