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    OCing in Wisconsin thread

    OC in Wisconsin is for the most part trouble free, but sometimes we run into a place that is unexpectedly troublesome or trouble free. Post your experiences here!




    Went to the Wisconsin Dells today, had a birthday dinner date at Sprecher's, Spanish waiter commented that America is "so great" after asking about my gun. Later, I decided that a crisp 60 is perfect for a walk so at about 8:30, we went for a walk. Went all the way from the Super 8 up across the bridge to where the gimmick shops are and noticed a Lake Delton police SUV near the Italian Restaurant on the hill. They seemed to notice me, but continued on their way. On the way back, a police car was sitting in the lumberjack parking lot with just the parking lights on. As I passed, one officer nodded towards me to the other officer and I waved. They waved back and continued eating their burgers.

    Went to the Ho Chunk Casino to spend (waste) my birthday money but anticipated the gun buster signs and had fun anyways. Lost it all. :-)

    Like usual, nothing bad happened. I even found some American made ammo at the WalMart for a good price.

    Having a good trip so far. I expected a problem or comment or two since it is a tourist trap, but so far so good.

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    I was in the L@M store in Hayward Friday then went and brought gas I really don't think anyone even noticed.
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    I was at Cabela's Richfield. I needed help with a bi pod selection. The Cabela's guy was a x cop. His hands were shaking when we started. After a few minutes he calmed down and started asking some very pointed questions. Never said i should not open carry but was really uncomfortable with me open carrying. The gun greeters just nodded and said HI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizz272 View Post
    I was at Cabela's Richfield. I needed help with a bi pod selection. The Cabela's guy was a x cop. His hands were shaking when we started. After a few minutes he calmed down and started asking some very pointed questions. Never said i should not open carry but was really uncomfortable with me open carrying. The gun greeters just nodded and said HI.

    It's very telling what kind of person an officer (or ex-officer) is when he is familiar with firearms and visibly shaken by the sight of an armed citizen.

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    Chula Vista Resorts is apparently anti-gun. Been here for 3 hours, sitting by the kiddie pool watching my 4 year old when the security guard, who claims to be a former police officer walks up to me and initiates a conversation.

    SO: You have a sidearm.
    Me: Yes I do.
    SO: On your belt.
    Me: Perfect place for it.
    SO: Why are you carrying it?
    Me: Tourist destinations are violent places and I prefer to have the option to protect my family.
    SO: Well I'm a former police officer and people are coming from all over and you're making them nervous. It's common sense that you don't carry a sidearm in public where people can see it. You can't carry in a resort.
    Me: We're in the wrong country for that attitude.
    Child "manager": We actually have a sign posted over there (points to pillar inside the pool area next to aid station, past front desk and locked doors) that prohibits weapons. (Also not true, as I looked upon exit)
    Me: As a police officer, did you take an oath to defend the constitution of the United States?
    SO: Not for this job.
    Me: As a police officer?
    SO: Yes, but not for this job.
    Me: I took the oath as well, and it doesn't expire once you quit or retire. It's a lifelong commitment.
    SO: Well, you can be arrested for disorderly conduct for carrying.
    Me: We both know that isn't true. AG Van Hollen has stated that the state does not consider the open carrying of a firearm to be disorderly conduct and has instructed all state law enforcement agencies to cease this practice. Are you trying to ask me yo leave?
    Child "manager": Well we have signs.
    Me: In accordance with state law, all signs must be posted at every entrance to the building and be at least 5x7 inches. You have had three hours to make it known that you would like me to leave. Would you like me to leave?
    SO: Either return it to your vehicle or I can lock it up for you.
    Me: No disrespect intended, but I will not allow you to handle my firearm because you may not be familiar with mine and which could cause an unintended discharge. I'll go wait for my family in the car and we won't be spending money here again.

    As I was walking out, the security officer tried to tell me that since I wasn't staying in the resort and had just paid cash (over $150) for admission, I wasn't really a guest or customer. I told him did indeed spend real money on admission, and lots of it and he was an idiot. Waiting in the car now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wimwag View Post
    It's very telling what kind of person an officer (or ex-officer) is when he is familiar with firearms and visibly shaken by the sight of an armed citizen.
    It is probably also telling about their department and if their superiors were pro-2A. I'd hypothesize NYPD trains officers to consider any armed civilian as a violent criminal, whereas a department in a pro-2A township may train officers that a person carrying doesn't necessarily equal criminal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wimwag View Post
    Me: I took the oath as well, and it doesn't expire once you quit or retire. It's a lifelong commitment.
    Boom! That's a heck of a good line.

    Quote Originally Posted by wimwag View Post
    As I was walking out, the security officer tried to tell me that since I wasn't staying in the resort and had just paid cash (over $150) for admission, I wasn't really a guest or customer. I told him did indeed spend real money on admission, and lots of it and he was an idiot. Waiting in the car now.
    The audacity of him saying you "are not a customer" is ridiculous, especially when in fact you did pay. Sounds like he's just a grumpy man with nothing better to do than bicker at the customers for lame reasons.
    Last edited by cirrusly; 01-27-2015 at 10:57 AM.
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    What annoys me is the length of time it took him to be offended. I had five separate conversations with others about carrying. My favorite was a lady named Linda from Nevada who asked me point blank why I carried. She said it's"awesome"and shook my hand. Other people were just curious if it was legal and one said he didn't know how to use a gun but was going to learn and carry when he saved enough for the gun he wanted. I think my carrying may have challenged Mr Ex Cop's ego. I doubt that the resort management would ever ban guns. In Wisconsin that's pretty stupid considering hunters invade the dells during deer season.

    At my hotel (Super 8) I met four people who were curious. The first was an employee. I returned from a walk downtown when an ambulance arrived for a pool accident and he thought I was a cop then asked about the laws. The second was a taxi driver who said he preferred to conceal. The third was a Korean War vet who patted me on the shoulder and said nothing. The last was an awesome guy about my age who loves guns as much as us and we talked guns, hunting and good bars and guzzled coffee until 2am last night.

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    I was helping with an event his past weekend at the American Legion / VFW hall in Greenfield (suburb of Milwaukee), when the person who was in charge told me that the night before (when we were setting up) someone had seen my pistol & complained to the bartender (the other half of the building is a bar), who told the person in charge of our event that they don't allow guns because they serve alcohol.

    Well, they're not posted, they didn't tell me, and I'm not spending money there, so ignored this info.
    In fact, if they'd told me to leave I would have gone home & taken a nap. The event manager would have had trouble taking over for me.

    I told her that it's sad the tavern league doesn't bother to inform their members of the laws which affect them.
    I might still write an anonymous letter to the owners of the bar & inform them of the laws about people who are carrying concealed not being allowed to drink alcohol on the premises. (I didn't even touch the brandied fruit or jello shots our group was serving.)

    I was cc all day and only 3 people knew - the event manager, my ex-boyfriend, and a friend of ours who was armed himself. I don't think even the deputies who came to give a presentation noticed. (We had 2 K9 teams come to show off the dogs. They were easily the hit of the day.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    I was helping with an event his past weekend at the American Legion / VFW hall in Greenfield (suburb of Milwaukee), when the person who was in charge told me that the night before (when we were setting up) someone had seen my pistol & complained to the bartender (the other half of the building is a bar), who told the person in charge of our event that they don't allow guns because they serve alcohol.

    Well, they're not posted, they didn't tell me, and I'm not spending money there, so ignored this info.
    In fact, if they'd told me to leave I would have gone home & taken a nap. The event manager would have had trouble taking over for me.

    I told her that it's sad the tavern league doesn't bother to inform their members of the laws which affect them.
    I might still write an anonymous letter to the owners of the bar & inform them of the laws about people who are carrying concealed not being allowed to drink alcohol on the premises. (I didn't even touch the brandied fruit or jello shots our group was serving.)

    I was cc all day and only 3 people knew - the event manager, my ex-boyfriend, and a friend of ours who was armed himself. I don't think even the deputies who came to give a presentation noticed. (We had 2 K9 teams come to show off the dogs. They were easily the hit of the day.)



    Sometimes I wonder if these situations aren't manufactured by the people claiming to receive complaints. You're better at handling these situations than me. I helped them ask me to leave lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    I was helping with an event his past weekend at the American Legion / VFW hall in Greenfield (suburb of Milwaukee), when the person who was in charge told me that the night before (when we were setting up) someone had seen my pistol & complained to the bartender (the other half of the building is a bar), who told the person in charge of our event that they don't allow guns because they serve alcohol.

    Well, they're not posted, they didn't tell me, and I'm not spending money there, so ignored this info.
    In fact, if they'd told me to leave I would have gone home & taken a nap. The event manager would have had trouble taking over for me.

    I told her that it's sad the tavern league doesn't bother to inform their members of the laws which affect them.
    I might still write an anonymous letter to the owners of the bar & inform them of the laws about people who are carrying concealed not being allowed to drink alcohol on the premises. (I didn't even touch the brandied fruit or jello shots our group was serving.)

    I was cc all day and only 3 people knew - the event manager, my ex-boyfriend, and a friend of ours who was armed himself. I don't think even the deputies who came to give a presentation noticed. (We had 2 K9 teams come to show off the dogs. They were easily the hit of the day.)
    The laws about bar carry in Wisconsin confused me a bit. It's my understanding if you have a Wisconsin recognized CCW you can OC and CC in an establishment that serves liquor, unless they're posted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wimwag View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if these situations aren't manufactured by the people claiming to receive complaints. You're better at handling these situations than me. I helped them ask me to leave lol
    A very good possibility these situations are manufactured in more than just the above suggested way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    A very good possibility these situations are manufactured in more than just the above suggested way.
    Doug. Are you saying WIMWAG made them up? How insulting, calling him a liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    A very good possibility these situations are manufactured in more than just the above suggested way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Law abider View Post
    Doug. Are you saying WIMWAG made them up? How insulting, calling him a liar.

    Doug is just a sillypants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wimwag View Post
    Doug is just a sillypants.
    OCing is a big responsibility and Doug thinks that it is funny when one of us has issues out there. I thought he was straightening up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Law abider View Post
    OCing is a big responsibility and Doug thinks that it is funny when one of us has issues out there. I thought he was straightening up.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cirrusly View Post
    The laws about bar carry in Wisconsin confused me a bit. It's my understanding if you have a Wisconsin recognized CCW you can OC and CC in an establishment that serves liquor, unless they're posted?
    It is my understanding that a person without a CCL can OC in a business with a liquor license, with the owner/manager's permission. A person with a CCL can OC or CC anywhere not posted, but cannot legally consume alcohol while doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by running wolf View Post
    it is my understanding that a person without a ccl can oc in a business with a liquor license, with the owner/manager's permission. A person with a ccl can oc or cc anywhere not posted, but cannot legally consume alcohol while doing so.
    yep. Something like it.
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