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    Guns on the beach


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    Carrying guns on the beach may be legal, but it's not civil: Guest opinion


    Some small measure of duct tale and antacid required to read that drivel w/o some pain.
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    I guess that the author of the article wants more people at the beach armed; a likely outcome for the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    SNIP...Some small measure of duct tale and antacid required to read that drivel w/o some pain.
    If you thought the self-aggrandizement of the article was bad, don't read the comments coming in real time. Some forego all rational thought.
    And humans are classified as "intelligent life"? Maybe THAT is a generalization.
    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

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    Thumbs down

    People like Dustin are not helping with the negative view the public at large has about guns.Leave the rifle at home!

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    Seeing one gun in a Speedo is bad enough...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed69 View Post
    People like Dustin are not helping with the negative view the public at large has about guns.Leave the rifle at home!
    Why do you hate freedom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed69 View Post
    People like Dustin are not helping with the negative view the public at large has about guns.Leave the rifle at home!
    Positive, negative ... its a right. I understand that people think it puts guns owners in bad light. But that's what they currently say about pistol OC too (hide that thing, its scaring me).

    If the guy was OCing a handgun, would people say the same? Certainly, some would.

    How is this a negative? He carried and did not harm a fly...if he would have saved some crazy shooter then all would be different, right?

    I understand why some people do not like rifle carry; I understand why people don't like handgun carry. It does not bother me at all.

    Perhaps more will now carry at the beach ... their shyness taken away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed69 View Post
    People like Dustin are not helping with the negative view the public at large has about guns.Leave the rifle at home!
    Quote Originally Posted by notalawyer View Post
    Why do you hate freedom?
    Ed69, a similar argument is usually leveled at OCers...from the CC-only crowd. See if this sounds familiar:

    "People who OC are not helping with the negative view the public at large has about guns. They alarm people, cause 911 calls, and give gun owners a bad image. Conceal your gun and go about your day!" - somewhat generalized-yet-cumulative phrase encompassing some of the arguments we get from CC-only trolls on OCDO, or what you read in the comments of CC-only sites.
    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

    “Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” - Frederic Bastiat

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    Quote Originally Posted by notalawyer View Post
    Why do you hate freedom?
    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Positive, negative ... its a right. I understand that people think it puts guns owners in bad light. But that's what they currently say about pistol OC too (hide that thing, its scaring me).

    If the guy was OCing a handgun, would people say the same? Certainly, some would.

    How is this a negative? He carried and did not harm a fly...if he would have saved some crazy shooter then all would be different, right?

    I understand why some people do not like rifle carry; I understand why people don't like handgun carry. It does not bother me at all.

    Perhaps more will now carry at the beach ... their shyness taken away.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Young Man View Post
    Ed69, a similar argument is usually leveled at OCers...from the CC-only crowd. See if this sounds familiar:

    "People who OC are not helping with the negative view the public at large has about guns. They alarm people, cause 911 calls, and give gun owners a bad image. Conceal your gun and go about your day!" - somewhat generalized-yet-cumulative phrase encompassing some of the arguments we get from CC-only trolls on OCDO, or what you read in the comments of CC-only sites.
    I've been using OC & CC for 24 years with no problems.There is a time and place for both,but especially with a rifle.

    Rifle=Offensive weapon

    Pistol=Deffensive weapon

    Do you think the average person would differentiate between a rifle slung vs. at the ready?It is your right to carry that rifle,but you are creating fear and at some point if the sheep out number us in the vote................What happens next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    Seeing one gun in a Speedo is bad enough...
    You had to mention that didn't you. Just the memory causes severe eye strain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed69 View Post
    I've been using OC & CC for 24 years with no problems.There is a time and place for both,but especially with a rifle.

    Rifle=Offensive weapon

    Pistol=Deffensive weapon

    Do you think the average person would differentiate between a rifle slung vs. at the ready?It is your right to carry that rifle,but you are creating fear and at some point if the sheep out number us in the vote................What happens next?

    Thank you for your opinion. Those of us that actually support freedom do not ridicule or condemn the manner or method others choose to display it.

    Ah, I see now, rifles are more scary than pistols, OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notalawyer View Post
    Thank you for your opinion. Those of us that actually support freedom do not ridicule or condemn the manner or method others choose to display it.

    Ah, I see now, rifles are more scary than pistols, OK.
    Actually, yes they are to some people.

    That and there is our Forum Rule #14
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

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    How did that dude steal my idea and my name? ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    I guess that the author of the article wants more people at the beach armed; a likely outcome for the story.
    The plans are already being made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed69 View Post
    People like Dustin are not helping with the negative view the public at large has about guns.Leave the rifle at home!
    Same argument the CC only crowd uses when discussing OCers. Oh look, see below.....


    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Young Man View Post
    Ed69, a similar argument is usually leveled at OCers...from the CC-only crowd. See if this sounds familiar:

    "People who OC are not helping with the negative view the public at large has about guns. They alarm people, cause 911 calls, and give gun owners a bad image. Conceal your gun and go about your day!" - somewhat generalized-yet-cumulative phrase encompassing some of the arguments we get from CC-only trolls on OCDO, or what you read in the comments of CC-only sites.
    Yup, hear it a lot. Funny thing how people are okay with YOU exercising your rights as long as you exercise them when, where, and the way THEY think you should.

    Hmmm didn't BLM try that with the 1st Amendment at Bunkerville? Yeah, how'd that work out for them?



    Quote Originally Posted by Ed69 View Post
    I've been using OC & CC for 24 years with no problems.There is a time and place for both,but especially with a rifle.

    Rifle=Offensive weapon

    Pistol=Deffensive weapon

    Do you think the average person would differentiate between a rifle slung vs. at the ready?It is your right to carry that rifle,but you are creating fear and at some point if the sheep out number us in the vote................What happens next?
    Not according to the federal government which requisitions M4's as "personal defensive weapons". Hmmmm double standard for the anointed ones and the peons?
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    Wink Oregon beach

    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    Seeing one gun in a Speedo is bad enough...

    Maybe not - does Oregon get enough sun to tan?
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    Ok boys you have yours and I have mine.Don't come asking for help when it all goess to ****,good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed69 View Post
    Ok boys you have yours and I have mine.Don't come asking for help when it all goess to ****,good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Where did that come from?

    We're not attacking YOU, or your character, or your CHOICE; we're only pointing out the double-standard that seems to have rubbed off on you or that you weren't aware of.

    Granted, I don't LGOC, but I'm not going to disparage someone for exercising their Rights in a safe, law-abiding manner, which is the same courtesy I would expect from others when I exercise my RKBA by OCing. It's that Golden Rule idea.
    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

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    Now where are those pictures of the Israel army gals with their M16s on the beach in their bikinis.


    Here.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=isra...Q&ved=0CCUQsAQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contrarian View Post
    Maybe not - does Oregon get enough sun to tan?
    Come on, you're from Washington, you know that in the Pacific Northwest we don't tan... we rust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contrarian View Post
    Maybe not - does Oregon get enough sun to tan?
    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    Now where are those pictures of the Israel army gals with their M16s on the beach in their bikinis.


    Here.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=isra...Q&ved=0CCUQsAQ
    Maybe this is the direction the thread should have taken initially. Less animosity, in any case.

    As to the Israeli soldiers with guns at the beach, it seems they are required to carry at all times, including when off base (such as the beach). Oddly enough, the rifles seem not to have a magazine attached, and with the girls dressed as they are, I'd imagine they don't carry them.
    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Young Man View Post
    Maybe this is the direction the thread should have taken initially. Less animosity, in any case.

    As to the Israeli soldiers with guns at the beach, it seems they are required to carry at all times, including when off base (such as the beach). Oddly enough, the rifles seem not to have a magazine attached, and with the girls dressed as they are, I'd imagine they don't carry them.
    Area of interest on which most agree - just be careful.

    Most all of the rifles had magazines or were likely close at hand..........maybe you were looking the wrong place
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Area of interest on which most agree - just be careful.

    Most all of the rifles had magazines or were likely close at hand..........maybe you were looking the wrong place
    Well, when they look at you with eyes like these, it's difficult to look anywhere else:

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    Besides, I wouldn't want to risk offending the ladies' honour or dignity. They are ladies, after all.
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    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

    “Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” - Frederic Bastiat

    "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." - Edmund Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Young Man View Post
    Well, when they look at you with eyes like these, it's difficult to look anywhere else:

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    --snipped--
    They have a plan on how to kill everyone in the room - look into their eyes and know fear
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    I do take note that no one is hollering "Off Topic" or thread "Highjack."
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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