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    Feds seek prison for armed rural Washington pot growers

    Larry Harvey, a 70-year-old medical marijuana patient with no criminal history, three of his relatives and a family friend each face mandatory minimum sentences of at least 10 years in prison after they were caught growing about 70 pot plants on their rural, mountainous property. The Harveys did have guns at their home, which is part of the reason for the lengthy possible prison time. They say the weapons were for hunting and protection, but prosecutors say two of the guns were loaded and in the same room as a blue plastic tub of pot.

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    10th Amendment.

    We need sheriffs who understand and support it.
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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    More in depth article on the whole thing.


    http://www.spokesman.com/stories/201...arijuana-laws/

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    I'd like to be on that Jury.
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    They can still have people saying that weed is legal and to keep it legal signs around the courthouse so that the jurists will see the signs.

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    medical marijuana cards, CPLs, the handgun registry of sales by FFLs....


    Right but in this state there is no "registration" of so-called medical marijuana cards. It's between a doctor and a patient. That's it. The state doesn't get involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    10th Amendment.

    We need sheriffs who understand and support it.
    Don't forget the 21st amendment either. It's the only place in the constitution where you'll find a federal authority to prohibit any intoxicant. Without such a constitutional authorization any statute prohibiting cannabis would trip over the fact that the feds had the same amount and same type of federal supremacy in 1914 as they do today in 2014...and they had to ratify the 18th amendment to prohibit alcohol at the federal level without it being struck down as unconstitutional.

    The feds stretched their authority under the 21st amendment to intoxicants in general (where the 21st specifies intoxicating liquors) but that gray area provided by that stretch only exists so long as all 50 states prohibit the same things the Controlled Substances Act does. As soon as any state legalizes medical or recreational use of a drug the CSA prohibits, that constitutional gray area evaporates and any Scheduling that contradicts state law is automatically unconstitutional.

    The list of drugs that it's illegal to possess guns while using/possessing is taken solely from the Controlled Substances Act. If the CSA is rendered inoperative by state-level legalization, it's suddenly no longer illegal on the federal level to possess marijuana and guns at the same time. Sure federal statutes have supremacy over state statutes, but federal statutes do NOT have supremacy over the federal constitution!

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