I am in the city of Uniontown in Pa in case people want to know.
Today is the first time I ever had the cops called on my for open carrying my handgun. I have open carried about 6 times before this so it took around the 7th time for the cops to be called. Also the funniest part is that I have open carried in front of cop cars while they drive by and none has stopped me before this, I have been in places like the mall, by a school, stores, streets, any place you can really think of and today at Walgreens is the only time the cops were called.
Now I have no clue who called the cops, I tried to ask them but they kind of ignored it by talking to me with other things. I assume that someone near Walgreens called the cops, either someone who seen me walking towards Walgreens or someone in the parking lot.
I will start from when I enter the store.
- So I walk into Walgreens to get milk. I walk in front of the cashier who probably seen my gun but didn't say anything, I continue to walk to where the drinks are. When I get there, there are about 4 people and I am assuming some of them seen my gun but once again didn't say anything or seem to care because they still were talking next to me to each other. Some were kids and some were older ladies. I then grab the milk and go to the cashier to checkout where there is a line of about 3 people. This whole part only took me about 1 minute so I was in and ALMOST out fast.
Then I seen a male cop enter the store. At first I thought he was in Walgreens because he was going to buy something, me thinking that he wasn't there because of my gun was just hoping he would walk by and not see my gun or at least not care but it turns out that he was actually there because someone called the cops on me. Just as he was about to walk past me he nodded his head at me as if implying "I am here for you after you checkout". As he nods I notice a 2nd officer enters the store now and is walking over. The 1st officer who nodded his head then tells me in a low voice "Don't reach for your gun" which I then reply and say something along the lines of "I know I am not that stupid".
While I am still waiting in line the two cops are just chilling next to me not saying anything yet, so I nicely said to the 1st officer I have ID if you want to see it. He was thinking in his head if he wanted me to give it to him inside the store or not but after he realized I was sitting in line he just said okay. I then give him my ID while waiting in line just because I know giving him ID is going to make me get out easy and make me along with all gun owners look good also it will look good in front of people watching this going on in front of them.
While the 1st officer is looking at my ID the 2nd officer says "What gun is that if you don't mind me asking" I said its a Ruger Sr9c 9mm. The 2nd officer then says "it must be new".. this left me confused because I thought he ment my gun was new as in he never seen that type of gun before thinking it was new, so I said what do you mean new? (Because the Ruger Sr9c has been out). He then says "I mean that you keep your gun clean it looks new" which then I tell him that I actually bought it used. While I am checking out I can hear my name on the walkie talkie which I think ment as I am good to go, it literally only took about 20 seconds for me to hear my name after I gave him my ID. Right before I am checking out I noticed a 3rd officer come in the store, now I am laughing in my heading at how many cops are coming
The officer nods his shoulder right as I pick up my milk as if he is saying "lets go this way" meaning outside to talk. As I am walking with the 3 officers outside I am laughing my ass off inside as I just notice a 4th cop getting ready to come in the store. Outside the cops basically just told me that it is my right to open carry but if I don't want them to keep being called it would be best to conceal carry. They said since it is hotter out that more people will call in about me with a gun that I should conceal carry if I don't want them to be an annoyance to me. The 2nd officer then says "if you are open carrying like that in a restaurant a robber would shoot you first" of course he is assuming that I would open carry in there, have no awareness and the robber would do that, but I get what he was trying to say, to me he seemed to like conceal carry more from how he was talking about it.
I then explain that I believe that there is a situation where open carry is better than conceal carry, I told them that a robber would choose to rob me if I was concealing over if I was open carrying because by concealing the robber think I have no weapon which means he would attempt to rob me, therefor I am in a situation now. Both officers just looked at me like they wanted to say "no" but they didn't say anything, they kind of looked confused like they didn't know what I was talking about or something. The 2nd officer said but the guy will have his gun out, I then said but by open carrying that robber wouldn't choose me to rob in the first place, then we stopped talking about that.
One of the 3rd or 4th officers said something like, yea someone might beat you up for carrying like that. I was not sure what he ment by that, I thought he ment another police officer because once he said that the other first Two officers quickly said "NOT US, WE WOULDN'T DO THAT WE MEAN SOMEONE ELSE".
It ended with the 1st officer basically saying it would be better to conceal to save them trouble but if I got my permit I can still open carry if I choose to.
The 1st officer said "Thanks for being cooperative" then we went out separate ways.
My Thoughts on the officers : IMO to me it seemed that they personally didn't like open carry, they still respected it as my right but I could tell the first two officers seemed to like it better if I would conceal. They didn't say it as in I BETTER do it but I could tell they were talking as if they don't like open carry much.
Other than that they seemed nice which is another reason I gave ID.
Why did I give ID? Because I felt that it benefited me to give ID in every way shape and form. I have seen many videos on open carry where people just be dick to cops and refuse ID not because they really don't want to give them it but mainly to be a ass hole about it. I decided that I will be cool in their eyes and give them ID to prove that gun owners are not dicks and just want to cause a commotion. Also in front of people who never see people open carry I wanted to come across as someone who looks like they have manners and is someone they would not be afraid of with a gun or someone with a attitude. I gave ID and I literally got on my way with under 2 minutes, most people on youtube take like 15+ minutes just to leave because they act like a dick. Also I even live in the projects and the police didn't say anything, why? Because like I said when you are nice to people they are nice back. I know I didn't have to give ID but I offered it first without them even asking to make me look even better, on top of this it gives gun owners a better reputation at least in my town since nobody open carries, It will be me who makes the rep of open carriers in my town so I have to make sure I don't make us look bad.
When Walking Home : I had a car drive by without a roof, there were kids in the back screaming hey/hi, I think they were in Walgreens when all this happened so I waved at them when they went by, to me they looked at me as cool I think. Then something weird happened, as I am walking home thinking who called the cops I am about to cross the street but... a truck stops and I can tell it wants to turn. I look over and notice the lady who is the passenger has her phone with the camera aiming at me, this makes me think she is recording me because I have a gun or maybe she wasn't but thats what it made it look like to me. I just pointed as in "Go ahead" not wtf she was doing lol
My rating is 9/10 over all, they are not 10 just because I felt they didn't like that I was open carrying even though they kept saying I can do it if I want.
Speed of encounter 10/10 = I was out under 2 minutes [mainly because I gave ID]
Cops attitude 10/10 = They were nice and not all freaked out
Cops attitude about open carry 9/10 = they respected it as my right but I felt they didn't like me doing it.
Although I felt the cops didn't like open carry that much, I still am going to open carry, hopefully they don't think I am a dick for doing it but what is the point of open carry if they don't like it. I like open carry better so hopefully they will still be okay with that.
Today is the first time I ever had the cops called on my for open carrying my handgun. I have open carried about 6 times before this so it took around the 7th time for the cops to be called. Also the funniest part is that I have open carried in front of cop cars while they drive by and none has stopped me before this, I have been in places like the mall, by a school, stores, streets, any place you can really think of and today at Walgreens is the only time the cops were called.
Now I have no clue who called the cops, I tried to ask them but they kind of ignored it by talking to me with other things. I assume that someone near Walgreens called the cops, either someone who seen me walking towards Walgreens or someone in the parking lot.
I will start from when I enter the store.
- So I walk into Walgreens to get milk. I walk in front of the cashier who probably seen my gun but didn't say anything, I continue to walk to where the drinks are. When I get there, there are about 4 people and I am assuming some of them seen my gun but once again didn't say anything or seem to care because they still were talking next to me to each other. Some were kids and some were older ladies. I then grab the milk and go to the cashier to checkout where there is a line of about 3 people. This whole part only took me about 1 minute so I was in and ALMOST out fast.
Then I seen a male cop enter the store. At first I thought he was in Walgreens because he was going to buy something, me thinking that he wasn't there because of my gun was just hoping he would walk by and not see my gun or at least not care but it turns out that he was actually there because someone called the cops on me. Just as he was about to walk past me he nodded his head at me as if implying "I am here for you after you checkout". As he nods I notice a 2nd officer enters the store now and is walking over. The 1st officer who nodded his head then tells me in a low voice "Don't reach for your gun" which I then reply and say something along the lines of "I know I am not that stupid".
While I am still waiting in line the two cops are just chilling next to me not saying anything yet, so I nicely said to the 1st officer I have ID if you want to see it. He was thinking in his head if he wanted me to give it to him inside the store or not but after he realized I was sitting in line he just said okay. I then give him my ID while waiting in line just because I know giving him ID is going to make me get out easy and make me along with all gun owners look good also it will look good in front of people watching this going on in front of them.
While the 1st officer is looking at my ID the 2nd officer says "What gun is that if you don't mind me asking" I said its a Ruger Sr9c 9mm. The 2nd officer then says "it must be new".. this left me confused because I thought he ment my gun was new as in he never seen that type of gun before thinking it was new, so I said what do you mean new? (Because the Ruger Sr9c has been out). He then says "I mean that you keep your gun clean it looks new" which then I tell him that I actually bought it used. While I am checking out I can hear my name on the walkie talkie which I think ment as I am good to go, it literally only took about 20 seconds for me to hear my name after I gave him my ID. Right before I am checking out I noticed a 3rd officer come in the store, now I am laughing in my heading at how many cops are coming
The officer nods his shoulder right as I pick up my milk as if he is saying "lets go this way" meaning outside to talk. As I am walking with the 3 officers outside I am laughing my ass off inside as I just notice a 4th cop getting ready to come in the store. Outside the cops basically just told me that it is my right to open carry but if I don't want them to keep being called it would be best to conceal carry. They said since it is hotter out that more people will call in about me with a gun that I should conceal carry if I don't want them to be an annoyance to me. The 2nd officer then says "if you are open carrying like that in a restaurant a robber would shoot you first" of course he is assuming that I would open carry in there, have no awareness and the robber would do that, but I get what he was trying to say, to me he seemed to like conceal carry more from how he was talking about it.
I then explain that I believe that there is a situation where open carry is better than conceal carry, I told them that a robber would choose to rob me if I was concealing over if I was open carrying because by concealing the robber think I have no weapon which means he would attempt to rob me, therefor I am in a situation now. Both officers just looked at me like they wanted to say "no" but they didn't say anything, they kind of looked confused like they didn't know what I was talking about or something. The 2nd officer said but the guy will have his gun out, I then said but by open carrying that robber wouldn't choose me to rob in the first place, then we stopped talking about that.
One of the 3rd or 4th officers said something like, yea someone might beat you up for carrying like that. I was not sure what he ment by that, I thought he ment another police officer because once he said that the other first Two officers quickly said "NOT US, WE WOULDN'T DO THAT WE MEAN SOMEONE ELSE".
It ended with the 1st officer basically saying it would be better to conceal to save them trouble but if I got my permit I can still open carry if I choose to.
The 1st officer said "Thanks for being cooperative" then we went out separate ways.
My Thoughts on the officers : IMO to me it seemed that they personally didn't like open carry, they still respected it as my right but I could tell the first two officers seemed to like it better if I would conceal. They didn't say it as in I BETTER do it but I could tell they were talking as if they don't like open carry much.
Other than that they seemed nice which is another reason I gave ID.
Why did I give ID? Because I felt that it benefited me to give ID in every way shape and form. I have seen many videos on open carry where people just be dick to cops and refuse ID not because they really don't want to give them it but mainly to be a ass hole about it. I decided that I will be cool in their eyes and give them ID to prove that gun owners are not dicks and just want to cause a commotion. Also in front of people who never see people open carry I wanted to come across as someone who looks like they have manners and is someone they would not be afraid of with a gun or someone with a attitude. I gave ID and I literally got on my way with under 2 minutes, most people on youtube take like 15+ minutes just to leave because they act like a dick. Also I even live in the projects and the police didn't say anything, why? Because like I said when you are nice to people they are nice back. I know I didn't have to give ID but I offered it first without them even asking to make me look even better, on top of this it gives gun owners a better reputation at least in my town since nobody open carries, It will be me who makes the rep of open carriers in my town so I have to make sure I don't make us look bad.
When Walking Home : I had a car drive by without a roof, there were kids in the back screaming hey/hi, I think they were in Walgreens when all this happened so I waved at them when they went by, to me they looked at me as cool I think. Then something weird happened, as I am walking home thinking who called the cops I am about to cross the street but... a truck stops and I can tell it wants to turn. I look over and notice the lady who is the passenger has her phone with the camera aiming at me, this makes me think she is recording me because I have a gun or maybe she wasn't but thats what it made it look like to me. I just pointed as in "Go ahead" not wtf she was doing lol
My rating is 9/10 over all, they are not 10 just because I felt they didn't like that I was open carrying even though they kept saying I can do it if I want.
Speed of encounter 10/10 = I was out under 2 minutes [mainly because I gave ID]
Cops attitude 10/10 = They were nice and not all freaked out
Cops attitude about open carry 9/10 = they respected it as my right but I felt they didn't like me doing it.
Although I felt the cops didn't like open carry that much, I still am going to open carry, hopefully they don't think I am a dick for doing it but what is the point of open carry if they don't like it. I like open carry better so hopefully they will still be okay with that.
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