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    Educate potential members of (a) jury/juries and go to jail!!!

    http://www.copblock.org/29616/markschmidter/

    A Florida man will be spending some time in jail for activity that is usually allowed outside a courthouse. Mark Schmidter passes out jury nullification brochures. Schmidter was found guilty of “indirect criminal contempt” Tuesday for passing out pamphlets in Orlando during the Casey Anthony trial . . . The pamphlets he was handing out described jury nullification, the power of a jury to return “a verdict of ‘Not Guilty’ despite its belief that the defendant is guilty of the violation charged.”
    Since he was not inside the court house, where does the judge get off holding him in contempt of court?

    What's next, walk up to the door of a court house while armed and get locked up for that too?

    I could see it, "No weapons are allowed in the courts and so even coming near court house while armed is contempt of court and you'll be locked up."

    Where will it end?
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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    Search some more ... the linked story if from 2013.

    I think that they guy won something (civil ?) ...

    Judge was wrong .. like most judges, they don't know diddly about rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
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    Since he was not inside the court house, where does the judge get off holding him in contempt of court?

    What's next, walk up to the door of a court house while armed and get locked up for that too?

    I could see it, "No weapons are allowed in the courts and so even coming near court house while armed is contempt of court and you'll be locked up."

    Where will it end?
    If only people understood one of the fundamental powers of a jury, and understood the RKBA, wrongfully-arrested OCers (arrested under "disturbing the peace", "contempt of cop", etc.) might not have to suffer the injustices of the "Justice" system.
    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

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    Jury nullification is perhaps the least known option where the general public is concerned. Prosecutors hate it. Judges hate it and most (all?) ban mention of it in their courtrooms.

    It is a simple concept, only requiring one (1) juror to stand up on his/her hind legs and refuse to convict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Jury nullification is perhaps the least known option where the general public is concerned. Prosecutors hate it. Judges hate it and most (all?) ban mention of it in their courtrooms.

    It is a simple concept, only requiring one (1) juror to stand up on his/her hind legs and refuse to convict.
    I got away with mentioning jury nullification during a jury selection.

    I still got nothing by statist idiots on the jury and thus lost that case, but I did get to bring it up.
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Jury nullification is perhaps the least known option where the general public is concerned. Prosecutors hate it. Judges hate it and most (all?) ban mention of it in their courtrooms.

    It is a simple concept, only requiring one (1) juror to stand up on his/her hind legs and refuse to convict.
    Even in the state where it is codified. The judges and prosecutors do all they can to get around it.
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    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    Even in the state where it is codified. The judges and prosecutors do all they can to get around it.
    The only way that they can get around it is through lying or intimidation; all that the law blesses occurring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    The only way that they can get around it is through lying or intimidation; all that the law blesses occurring.
    I have watched prosecutors and judges and cops lie with immunity. They are not afraid to lie.
    Last edited by sudden valley gunner; 05-13-2014 at 11:11 PM.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    I have watched prosecutors and judges and cops lie with immunity. They are not afraid to lie.
    Oh, so you are following my current case then.....
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

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