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    Chipotle is asking customers not to bring firearms into its stores after it says gun rights advocates brought military-style assault rifles into one of its restaurants in Texas.

    The Denver-based company notes that it has traditionally complied with local laws regarding open and concealed firearms.

    But in a statement Monday, the company said that "the display of firearms in our restaurants has now created an environment that is potentially intimidating or uncomfortable for many of our customers."

    The announcement came after a petition by Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, which has called on other companies to ban firearms in their stores as well. The group said its petition was in reaction to open-carry gun activists appearing at a Dallas-area Chipotle restaurant over the weekend.

    Erika Soto Lamb, a spokeswoman for the group, said she thought the move by Chipotle was a "bold statement," especially considering its previous stance of complying with local laws.

    Many states allow people to carry licensed guns in some way, but some businesses exercise their right to ban firearms.

    A Chipotle restaurant is seen on March 5, 2014 in Miami, Fla.

    A Chipotle spokesman didn't immediately respond when asked if the company's request was an outright ban, or how it would respond if people continued to bring firearms into its restaurants.

    Last year, Starbucks Corp. also told customers that guns were no longer welcome in its cafes after it had to temporarily close a store in Newton, Connecticut, to avoid a demonstration by gun rights advocates. The company said it shut down the store out of respect for the community, where 20 school children and six educators had been slain.

    The Seattle-based coffee chain stopped short of a ban, however, saying it didn't want to put its workers in the position of having to ask people carrying guns to leave its stores. Its carefully worded decision also underscored how major companies need to walk a fine line on highly divisive political issues.

    Likewise, Chipotle Mexican Grill Inc. noted in its statement that "there are strong arguments on both sides of this issue." It said it hoped that customers who oppose carrying guns in public agree that "it is the role of elected officials and the legislative process to set policy in this area."

    - Associated Press

    First published May 19th 2014, 4:30 pm

    http://www.nbcnews.com/business/busi...stores-n109531

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27492193

    http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2014/05/20/...iref=allsearch
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    I sent them an email and here is the response.

    The issue of gun ownership or gun rights has become one of the most contentious debates in the country. Chipotle has never taken a position on this issue, as we focus instead on our mission to change the way people think about and eat fast food.

    Recently participants from an “open carry” demonstration in Texas brought guns (including military-style assault rifles) into one of our restaurants, causing many of our customers anxiety and discomfort. Because of this, we are respectfully asking that customers not bring guns into our restaurants, unless they are authorized law enforcement personnel.

    Historically, we felt it enough to simply comply with local laws regarding the open or concealed carrying of firearms, because we believe that it is not fair to put our team members in the uncomfortable position of asking that customers refrain from bringing guns into our restaurants. However, because the display of firearms in our restaurants has now created an environment that is potentially intimidating or uncomfortable for many of our customers, we think it is time to make this request.

    We acknowledge that there are strong arguments on both sides of this issue. We have seen those differing positions expressed in the wake of this event in Texas, where pro-gun customers have contacted us to applaud our support of the Second Amendment, and anti-gun customers have expressed concern over the visible display of military-style assault rifles in restaurants where families are eating. The vast majority of gun owners are responsible citizens and we appreciate them honoring this request. And we hope that our customers who oppose the carrying of guns in public agree with us that it is the role of elected officials and the legislative process to set policy in this area, not the role of businesses like Chipotle.

    We always welcome the exchange of ideas and opinions: it is one of the many things that make our country such a special place. But this issue is not central to the operation of our business, and we do not feel that our restaurants should be used as a platform for either side of the debate.

    Sincerely,
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    Thumbs up Thanks!

    Thanks Uber_Olafsun

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    Their "Talk To Us" page is here. I left them a message as well, and encourage all carriers to do so.

    http://www.chipotle.com/en-us/talk_t...alk_to_us.aspx

    But this issue is not central to the operation of our business, and we do not feel that our restaurants should be used as a platform for either side of the debate.

    Weasel words, of course, since clearly they are now taking sides in the "debate". Odd, the 2nd Amendment seems like it was settled business in the 1700's and was not open for further "debate". I wonder how she'd respond if a hundred people sent her a petition to prohibit the open display of homosexuality in their restaurants because it made them "uncomfortable" and "families were present"? That's rhetorical, we know how they'd respond.

    Funny how things that are not rights are given the full monty treatment, but traditional peaceful rights are shunned in modern America.
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    Hmmm. I guess take your money elsewhere. You have the freedom of choice regarding where you eat and spend your money just as much as they have the freedom of choice in deciding if people can force them into the political arena.

    They are there to make money, not a political statement. They appear to prefer to err on the side of caution. I think they could have worded it better, but I see their reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan 5 View Post
    Hmmm. I guess take your money elsewhere. You have the freedom of choice regarding where you eat and spend your money just as much as they have the freedom of choice in deciding if people can force them into the political arena.

    They are there to make money, not a political statement. They appear to prefer to err on the side of caution. I think they could have worded it better, but I see their reasoning.
    The way to not make political statements is to not actually make a political statement. They have sided with the anti's which is, in fact, a political statement no matter how they wish to weasel word their reply. Their previous position, simply allowing state law to dictate how they respond to firearms, was an apolitical stance.

    I do agree with property rights and will honor their request that I don't bring my money into their restaurants.
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    Chipotle did NOT ban guns from their resturants, again the media and MDA are spinning a lie, and so many folks fall for it.

    Here is their relevant remarks to carry in Chipotle.

    “Because of this we are respectfully asking that customers not bring guns into our restaurants, unless they are authorized law enforcement personnel.”

    “The vast majority of gun owners are responsible citizens and we appreciate them honoring this request,” the statement continues. “And we hope that our customers who oppose the carrying of guns in public agree with us that it is the role of elected officials and the legislative process to set policy in this area, not the role of businesses like Chipotle.”


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    Perception is reality and it is all that MDA need to advance their agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernymac View Post
    Perception is reality and it is all that MDA need to advance their agenda.
    All they need are gullible sheep to advance their agenda. It is your choice to be one or not.
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    Even though they are only asking gun owners not to carry in their stores, it makes us look bad if we fail to honor the request. I see these kinds of businesses as CC or no carry establishments for that reason.

    What really irks me is that two people messed this up for all of us; they punish everybody for the stupidity of a few. I think long gun OC is unsafe and shouldn't be done because of muzzle and weapons control. Do people have the right to do it? Absolutely, but I don't think it should be done in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acmariner99 View Post
    Even though they are only asking gun owners not to carry in their stores, it makes us look bad if we fail to honor the request. I see these kinds of businesses as CC or no carry establishments for that reason.

    What really irks me is that two people messed this up for all of us; they punish everybody for the stupidity of a few. I think long gun OC is unsafe and shouldn't be done because of muzzle and weapons control. Do people have the right to do it? Absolutely, but I don't think it should be done in public.
    Hogwash, two people did not mess this up. If you fall for the BS YOU are messing this up. The biggest mistake, and what the antis love is when we turn on ourselves, and some of you are all too willing to do it.

    They followed the law, Chipotles made a statement that is clearly fence sitting, and intended to appease both sides. Nothing has changed, if you wish to not eat there take responsibility for it yourself. I don't ever eat there, and it is nobodies responsibility but mine.

    Give the antis and inch and they will gladly take a mile. They hate guns, long guns, handguns, open guns, concealed carry guns, they hate guns.
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    Why do these retarded morons keep doing this?? They are not doing anybody any good. They are hurting the cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Chipotle did NOT ban guns from their resturants, again the media and MDA are spinning a lie, and so many folks fall for it.

    Here is their relevant remarks to carry in Chipotle.

    “Because of this we are respectfully asking that customers not bring guns into our restaurants, unless they are authorized law enforcement personnel.”

    “The vast majority of gun owners are responsible citizens and we appreciate them honoring this request,” the statement continues. “And we hope that our customers who oppose the carrying of guns in public agree with us that it is the role of elected officials and the legislative process to set policy in this area, not the role of businesses like Chipotle.”


    Please get a grip...
    This ^

    They might as well asked their customers to not be idiots on Facebook. Just because you ask politely doesn't make it policy- or more importantly- law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 223to45 View Post
    Why do these retarded morons keep doing this?? They are not doing anybody any good. They are hurting the cause.
    You do realize this took place in Texas, right? If I understand correctly, the only legal OC in Texas is long guns. Why would they be morons for exercising a right?

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    How about a little COMMON SENSE ?

    The RIGHT to keep and bear arms that is reserved to we the people in these United States comes with the same IMPLIED caveat that accompanies EVERY Constitutionally reserved RIGHT.

    We the People of these United States have this right to keep and bear arms for home protection, individual self protection, militia related duties , hunting, and tangentially related activities pursuant to the aforementioned.

    This RIGHT does not extend to unnecessary demonstrations of the armed condition anywhere, and anytime.

    I've said this before, and I'll say it once more. Organize a militia unit, lease some acreage for hunting, and target practice perhaps, arm yourself yourself when at home , and when in public.

    This presenting with a group of people carrying AR's & AK's at businesses UNINVITED must stop.
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    WHAT?

    The second amendment only protects the people from the government, it is not about self defense, hunting, sport shooting or any of that other BS that has been put on the people by carpetbaggers like the NRA.

    It is damn lucky that the civil rights movement happened in the sixties, it would have no chance today with the attitude of the sheeple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    [ ... ] BS that has been put on the people by carpetbaggers like the NRA.
    WooHoo! Preach it brother. It's more effective if they know what were Carpetbaggers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arin Morris View Post
    You do realize this took place in Texas, right? If I understand correctly, the only legal OC in Texas is long guns. Why would they be morons for exercising a right?

    I don't care where it happen at , they are still morons for doing it they way they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 223to45 View Post
    I don't care where it happen at , they are still morons for doing it they way they did.
    And the feewing might be mutual if you ask them. I guess you consider Rosa Parks a moron? ehhhhh?
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    National Review says NO GUNS

    Well!

    Chipotle Was Right To Ban Firearms
    Who would feel comfortable sitting in a Chipotle, enjoying a burrito bowl (carnitas, hold the guac!), when in walks a group of guys holding assault weapons and strangely posing for photos? Would anyone feel comfortable after so many mass shootings have been burned into our memories?

    Most folks would not. Even those of us supportive of gun rights understand that a small restaurant, usually populated with a significant number of children, where alcoholic beverages are sold, is not an appropriate venue in which to sport a large rifle across one’s shoulder.
    Here is the photo that upsets NR's Delgado:



    He continues:
    What other businesses are next? Where else will the foolish few ruin it for the vast majority of sensible, modest gun owners?

    Some perpetually outraged pundits and commentators have painted Chipotle as the next showdown at the O.K. Corral. It isn’t. You gotta know when to hold ’em, and know when to fold ’em.

    Let this one go. Chipotle is right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    Well!

    Chipotle Was Right To Ban Firearms


    Here is the photo that upsets NR's Delgado:



    He continues:


    -- A. J. Delgado is a conservative writer and lawyer.

    Hmmm a progressive conservative, equals idiot. That said letting it go is correct, but why won't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 223to45 View Post
    I don't care where it happen at , they are still morons for doing it they way they did.
    They are not allowed to open carry handguns. What do you suggest they do?

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    Paul,

    Thank you for taking the time to reach out to us about this very sensitive issue. We recognize that the vast majority of gun owners are responsible citizens who carry their guns in accordance with local laws. We hope that those same citizens will honor our request to refrain from bringing their firearms into our restaurants, unless they are authorized law enforcement personnel. I will definitely make a note of your sentiments regarding our request. In the meantime, I hope that you have a peaceful rest of the week and that we may someday have the opportunity to serve you again.

    Sincerely,
    Andrea

    Customer Service Consultant
    Chipotle Mexican Grill

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    Restaurant Name: Lynnwood
    Date & Time of Visit: //Z

    Original Comment:
    As a frequent customer (several visits per month) of my local Chipolte in Lynnwood WA, I have to tell you I will honor your recent well publicized request to not carry my firearm into your establishment.

    However since I value my safety and that of my family that means I will no longer be patronizing your establishment and will encourage others to avoid it also.

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    Well, since we're posting replies:

    To ensure we receive your response, please do not modify the subject line.

    Alfred,

    I'm sorry to hear that you are disappointed in our decision to request that customers not bring guns into our restaurants. I'll be sure to take note of your thoughts to keep in mind should we review this request of our customers in the future.

    Sincerely,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    [ ... ]Why I no get as many words as everyone else?
    CSR patience wearing thin, fearing all these NO GUNS = NO MONEY calls may cut into their remuneration.
    I am responsible for my writing, not your understanding of it.

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