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    open carriers strike again

    http://www.thebangswitch.com/open-ca...-strike-again/

    maybe you should start listening to your fellow gun owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g21sfpistol View Post
    http://www.thebangswitch.com/open-ca...-strike-again/

    maybe you should start listening to your fellow gun owners.
    And maybe you should find opinion articles that aren't being written by Law Enforcement Officers.
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    Actually, it really helps demonstrate what cops think.

    He thinks ALL open carry activists are just like the ones that he hears about on TV and writes accordingly.
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    I take the opinions of brainwashed minions, about as seriously as I do the average commentator on Reddit...oh, right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    ...brainwashed minions...
    Funny you should say that. I did notice this part about his bio:
    Matt is a full time Deputy Sheriff that has been on the job for 17 years. During his time as a LEO he's attended countless training classes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    I take the opinions of brainwashed minions, about as seriously as I do the average commentator on Reddit...oh, right.
    And that all any one has here. Opinions. Yet it's all treated as fact. All because it's was discussed here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g21sfpistol View Post
    And that all any one has here. Opinions. Yet it's all treated as fact. All because it's was discussed here.
    Irony much?
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    Irony much?
    I believe the concept of irony is lost on it. Perhaps any concept is beyond its grasp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g21sfpistol View Post
    http://www.thebangswitch.com/open-ca...-strike-again/

    maybe you should start listening to your fellow gun owners.
    I believe that you belong to the wrong site. In that deputies 17 years on the job, do you think that he concealed carried the whole time for the "tactical advantage" that conceal carry offers? Naw, he OC'd the whole time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g21sfpistol View Post
    http://www.thebangswitch.com/open-ca...-strike-again/

    maybe you should start listening to your fellow gun owners.
    Police officers were present at Chipotle when the "event of controversy" happened. The fact is that there was no controversy when the event took place, the controversy was maliciously manufactured after the fact. And as MDA was choo-chooing that spoon full of bull-**** toward your mouth, you opened wide and swallowed it whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g21sfpistol View Post
    And that all any one has here. Opinions. Yet it's all treated as fact. All because it's was discussed here.
    This is true, for conversations that involve only opinion. The problem with MDA (and other antis, and CC-only, and Fudds) is that they can't let their opinion stand on it's own merit. They have to manufacture ******** to go along with it, in a pathetic attempt to lend credibility to an otherwise flimsy (if not collapsed) point. Either that, or they rely on the emotional scare tactics card....or both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    And then there are the glass houses...

    Pump 5 rounds in a person and hope there's no one behind him down the hall in another room (unless the walls are armored).

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    Drawing down on people, not realizing they look nothing like the perp. About like drawing down on Herve' Villachez while looking for Dr. J.

    In the end the cops are making the crisis far worse than it really is, and more often than not it's for a paycheck. Because if they weren't pulling bonuses would they be so willing to threaten people? To deprive them of their rights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan 5 View Post
    In the end the cops are making the crisis far worse than it really is, and more often than not it's for a paycheck. Because if they weren't pulling bonuses would they be so willing to threaten people? To deprive them of their rights?
    The human ego can be a terrible thing, when the subject is propped up by their own conscience, and their training ingrains a "we are always right; it's us against them" mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g21sfpistol View Post
    http://www.thebangswitch.com/open-ca...-strike-again/

    maybe you should start listening to your fellow gun owners.
    I am curious, g21sfpistol, what is your real beef with open-carry? Are you really that upset about the potential political fall-out? Or is there something else about it that bugs you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterNSteinmetz View Post
    I am curious, g21sfpistol, what is your real beef with open-carry? Are you really that upset about the potential political fall-out? Or is there something else about it that bugs you?
    Maybe his girl left him for an OC'er......haha.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterNSteinmetz View Post
    I am curious, g21sfpistol, what is your real beef with open-carry? Are you really that upset about the potential political fall-out? Or is there something else about it that bugs you?
    I believe it may be suffering from some sort of autism spectrum disorder such as Asperger's. The symptoms are there, although, further tests need to be performed.

    I doubt it is getting "bugged" by OC, it is just a topic that it is currently latched onto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    This is true, for conversations that involve only opinion. The problem with MDA (and other antis, and CC-only, and Fudds) is that they can't let their opinion stand on it's own merit. They have to manufacture ******** to go along with it, in a pathetic attempt to lend credibility to an otherwise flimsy (if not collapsed) point. Either that, or they rely on the emotional scare tactics card....or both.
    You mean like "you will be the first one shot, they will take your weapon, its a tactical disadvantage, people will be running for the door, makes you a target, don't see anybody doing it," did I miss any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator View Post
    Police officers were present at Chipotle when the "event of controversy" happened. The fact is that there was no controversy when the event took place, the controversy was maliciously manufactured after the fact. And as MDA was choo-chooing that spoon full of bull-**** toward your mouth, you opened wide and swallowed it whole.
    Yup. One person who is afraid of OC for whatever reason started spewing stuff, then the people started to repeat this to other people now we have statements made that no evidence can back up.

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    I have wondered this for a long time. What if everybody who carries a handgun legally, and who lives in a state that allows it, open carried? seriously, what if? and why don't more people do it when they claim to stand for gun rights? never understood this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wethepeople View Post
    I have wondered this for a long time. What if everybody who carries a handgun legally, and who lives in a state that allows it, open carried? seriously, what if? and why don't more people do it when they claim to stand for gun rights? never understood this.
    I ask myself the same thing, but I think most of it is that people are ignorant of gun laws. For example, in Arizona anyone who is not a convicted felon and is 18+ may open carry, once you become 21+ you can conceal with or without a CCW. That and I also believe that many live in a fantasy world where the law enforcement responds in 10 seconds flat and the worst part is many may not see the importance of being armed until it is to late, there's no do overs when put in a life or death situation.

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    Many people live in a false reality. They "feel" that their cell phone is enough. They "feel" that taking guns away from the lawful citizens will somehow stop violent crime. Hey I "feel" that I should have my own star ship, circa (1970's star trek), and all cute women across the solar system should long for my companionship.. but hey, feeling that way has nothing to do with how improbable it really is! Here's a video from our Canadian friends to the north. They have made it very difficult for the average citizen to protect themselves effectively, let us see how well "just dial 911, the cops will take care of it!" is working for them...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsgVtpWmMOc

    Ooops close but wrong country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javelina View Post
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    That and I also believe that many live in a fantasy world where the law enforcement responds in 10 seconds flat and the worst part is many may not see the importance of being armed until it is to late, there's no do overs when put in a life or death situation.
    Even if that fantasy were true, I'm sure that a bullet travels much faster than that

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    Quote Originally Posted by g21sfpistol View Post
    maybe you should start listening to your fellow gun owners.
    Good advice, why do you not try it?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterNSteinmetz View Post
    I am curious, g21sfpistol, what is your real beef with open-carry?......... Or is there something else about it that bugs you?
    You believe you can draw your weapon from concealed faster than someone who open carrys, you have disdain for those of us who do OC, so just why are you here wasting bandwidth? And, please, answer Peter, I, too, am curious.
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