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    open carry no permit?

    I understand that I may carry my handgun openly while in my truck but confused on if I stop for fuel or at a restarea? may I still carry it openly without a permit? and not get into trouble?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocofan View Post
    I understand that I may carry my handgun openly while in my truck but confused on if I stop for fuel or at a restarea? may I still carry it openly without a permit? and not get into trouble?
    You have it backwards!

    Ohio is a traditional open carry state. Recently, the Ohio legislature passed HB-12 over Governor Taft’s veto, thus preempting all local open carry bans even in Ohio’s “home rule” localities. Unfortunately, despite passage of HB-12, a permit to conceal is still required to openly carry a handgun in a vehicle.
    http://www.opencarry.org/?page_id=286

    http://www.opencarry.org/?page_id=101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    You have it backwards!

    Ohio is a traditional open carry state. Recently, the Ohio legislature passed HB-12 over Governor Taft’s veto, thus preempting all local open carry bans even in Ohio’s “home rule” localities. Unfortunately, despite passage of HB-12, a permit to conceal is still required to openly carry a handgun in a vehicle.
    http://www.opencarry.org/?page_id=286

    http://www.opencarry.org/?page_id=101
    OH. I do understand no opencarry in vehicle if you don't have a permit. what I'm asking here is GA where you are permited to opencarry in a vehicle but I'm not sure on when you stop and get out of you'r vehicle?
    the reson for me asking is I'm an OTR truck driver and live in FL. and there I can legally carry my handgun withouta permit if it's locked unloaded and incased and most time travel from FL. through GA up to OH,IN,IL., just want to know where I would be legal to open carry with out a permit until I get my FL. CCW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocofan View Post
    OH. I do understand no opencarry in vehicle if you don't have a permit. what I'm asking here is GA where you are permited to opencarry in a vehicle but I'm not sure on when you stop and get out of you'r vehicle?
    the reson for me asking is I'm an OTR truck driver and live in FL. and there I can legally carry my handgun withouta permit if it's locked unloaded and incased and most time travel from FL. through GA up to OH,IN,IL., just want to know where I would be legal to open carry with out a permit until I get my FL. CCW.
    Didn't look at the links did you?

    Cliff notes provided on these maps:
    http://www.opencarry.org/?page_id=101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Didn't look at the links did you?

    Cliff notes provided on these maps:
    http://www.opencarry.org/?page_id=101
    didn't see it the first time but I did look at it now, it seem's I'll be doing a lot of stops every time I cross a state line, gun in the box,gun out of the box,gun back in the box. at least I'll feel safer at night in my sleeper cab.

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    the reason I'm a little confused is that I saw a video on youtube ( I don't belive everthing posted on youtube ) where a woman sited a law I belive she said (16-1-326) where you could open carry with out a permit. in the video there was a lot of back ground noise and I could not here her clearly. here's the link to the video


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx2iVPCo6Qo

    also HB 615 wich I'm a little confused understanding
    SECTION 3 - This section repeals the requirement of a license to carry a pistol openly, making Georgia like the majority of states, where a license is needed only to conceal the weapon, not merely to carry it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocofan View Post
    confused ... I saw a video on youtube
    There's your problem.

    The only way to OC in GA without a permit is with a Long Gun.

    ...which we're not allowed to talk about here becasue OCDO does not beleive that the Right to Keep and Bear Arms applies to anything except handguns. I'd be glad to inform you futher, but it would get moderated. This might, too, seeing that Grapeshot already pointed you to multiple valid sources and you referenced YouTube and some person and some law and nothing of substance while acknowledgeing that it has no substance yet still putting it forward...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixtow View Post
    There's your problem.

    The only way to OC in GA without a permit is with a Long Gun.

    ...which we're not allowed to talk about here becasue OCDO does not beleive(sic) that the Right to Keep and Bear Arms applies to anything except handguns. I'd be glad to inform you futher, but it would get moderated. This might, too, seeing that Grapeshot already pointed you to multiple valid sources and you referenced YouTube and some person and some law and nothing of substance while acknowledgeing that it has no substance yet still putting it forward...

    See what happened there?
    Not so!

    OCDO is limited to the promotion and defense of RKBA via holstered handguns by design/intent. Quite obviously RKBA applies to more than handguns......just not fodder here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Not so!

    OCDO is limited to the promotion and defense of RKBA via holstered handguns by design/intent. Quite obviously RKBA applies to more than handguns......just not fodder here.

    well since my question has been unanseawered I'm going to asueme that it's not legal to opencarry on foot in GA without a permit witch IMO should not be that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocofan View Post
    well since my question has been unanseawered I'm going to asueme that it's not legal to opencarry on foot in GA without a permit witch IMO should not be that way.
    A search through previous threads in this state's subforum would have given you a direct answer. Fallschirmjaeger gave a detailed one, with citation.

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...gal-in-Georgia

    In a nutshell: If you have a carry license from any state which has reciprocity with GA, you may open carry. This license may be a concealed carry permit or a firearms owner ID. GA does not distinguish between open and concealed carry; you are at liberty to do either as long as you have a carry license of some kind. Absent that, you must continue to "transport" your gun through GA.
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    thank you very much could some one tell me in this youtube video what this woman was referring to? to open carry with out the need of a permit? cause there is where all my confusion began. cause I tried looking for info. on the law she sited (16-1-326) and HB 615 and found no info. on the law.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx2iVPCo6Qo

    ok so no permit no open carry on foot I get it, but I would be legal to carry in a vehicle.
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    YOU NEED a gwl to carry here in ga oc or cc but on your own property or car or if you boss gives permissiom them no license required

    BUT any other way must have license

    Basically, to carry a long gun you do not have to have a license to carry as long as you are not prohibited from owning a firearm. To carry a handgun openly or concealed in the state of Georgia (other than on your property or inside your home, car, or your place of business), you must have a Georgia Weapons Carry License (or the older Georgia Firearm License) issued under code 16-11-129. To carry a knife designed for offense with a blade over 5 inches you must have a Georgia Weapons Carry License (or the older Georgia Firearm License) issued under code 16-11-129. There are exceptions, read below to find out what those are.
    http://www.georgiapacking.org/law.php


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    Weapons Carry: You are not allowed to carry a weapon (as defined at the top of this page) without having a weapons carry license unless you fit one of the exceptions below (this is in general, there are some places off-limits to carry even with a Weapons Carry License):

    If you are not prohibited by law from possessing (see the definition under the "Possession" section at the top of this page) a firearm you may carry a weapon on your own property and in your own home, motor vehicle and place of business without needing a valid weapons carry license. (including the property that the business is located on IF the property is owned by the business owner). You do not have to have permission from the business owner in order to be exempt from carrying a concealed weapon without a license at your place of business (however that does NOT mean you cannot be fired for carrying without permission. If you cross any property in transit between your property, car or office then you would be in violation of the law.
    If you are not prohibited by law from possessing a firearm you may carry a long gun without needing a valid weapons carry license. However if it is loaded, you must carry the long gun in an open and fully exposed manner (this exemption is odd, a long gun is not defined as a weapon so I am not sure what law you would be breaking if you did carry a loaded long gun concealed).
    If you are not prohibited by law from possessing a firearm you may carry a handgun provided it is unloaded and enclosed inside a case (There is nothing that defines exactly what unloaded means, to be on the safe side you should assume it means no loaded magazine inserted into the gun).
    If you are not ineligible for a license to carry, you can carry in any private passenger motorized vehicle, provided that the owner (or other legal representative of the property) has not forbid possession of weapons or long guns on the property (the difference between this and the first one is that you can carry in someone else's car provided you could get a GWL and they do not forbid you possessing it in their car).
    If you have a valid hunting or fishing license or do not legally have to have one, you can carry a handgun or long gun while you are actively engaged in hunting, fishing or sport shooting with permission from the owner of the land you are on.
    If you have a license to carry from a state that honors the Georgia Weapons Carry License, as long as you are not a resident of Georgia and you follow Georgia laws while you are here (a map of states that honor the Georgia license is here).
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    ok, I may solve this with a VA non resident ccw,wich technecly GA doesn't have reciprocity with but I did read this from SB308 will be amended july 1 2014
    correct me if I am wrong.




    96 (e) Any person licensed to carry a handgun or weapon in any other state whose laws
    97 recognize and give effect to a license issued pursuant to this part shall be authorized to
    98 carry a weapon in this state, but only while the licensee is not a resident of this state;
    provided, however, that such licensee shall carry the weapon in compliance with the laws
    100 of this state.

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    if ga dosent reconize it you cant use that license to carry in ga
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    bummer ok I guess I'll stop beating my head against the wall here.

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    I'm driving from VA to Tybee Island, GA today. I can open carry in NC and VA, except I am REQUIRED to open carry in my vehicle in NC, then once I get to SC it is REQUIRED to be in my glovebox, then once I get to GA it sounds like I must unload the gun, put it in a case, and I'm still researching to see if I can even move the gun from my truck to my beach house rental property. I honestly can't believe how stingy the carry laws are in SC/GA. I do not have my CHP yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocofan View Post
    bummer ok I guess I'll stop beating my head against the wall here.
    Is there a reason why you cannot obtain a Florida carry license? (If I'm reading it correctly and you are from Fla.)

    Quote Originally Posted by chocofan
    I'm going to asueme that it's not legal to opencarry on foot in GA without a permit witch IMO should not be that way.
    We agree and we're workin' on it!
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    Yeah, apparently neither GA nor VA honor each others' permits. I wonder why? Must be training required in Virginia??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnbo View Post
    Yeah, apparently neither GA nor VA honor each others' permits. I wonder why? Must be training required in Virginia??
    That has been a much discussed item. There really is no good reason.

    Here is a great interactive reciprocity map:
    http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_ca...city_maps.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Truth View Post
    I'm driving from VA to Tybee Island, GA today. I can open carry in NC and VA, except I am REQUIRED to open carry in my vehicle in NC, then once I get to SC it is REQUIRED to be in my glovebox, then once I get to GA it sounds like I must unload the gun, put it in a case, and I'm still researching to see if I can even move the gun from my truck to my beach house rental property. I honestly can't believe how stingy the carry laws are in SC/GA. I do not have my CHP yet.

    /vent
    Having a loaded gun in your car without a permit in GA is fine. One of my friends there is an assistant DA in one of the counties. I specifically asked him about that and told him I would have a loaded pistol in my glovebox. He said that was fine. I could also bring it into the house if I wanted. I just couldn't carry off "my" (rental) property.

    BTW, I'm wearing a Tybee Time t-shirt right now. I go down and visit friends there for the Beach Bum Parade every year.

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    We will be going back for St. Patty's Day festivities next year! I thought Tybee was pretty cool, but I will be more prepared next time with my VA CHP and any necessary permit so that I may carry in GA as well. The further North I got on the drive home the less oppressed I felt, and once I crossed into VA there was a huge weight lifted off my chest. One really cannot understand the feeling of freedom/lack thereof until one takes the drive from a free state to another state which does not recognize one's rights quite as clearly. Oppression is the only word I can think of to use!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Truth View Post
    I'm driving from VA to Tybee Island, GA today. I can open carry in NC and VA, except I am REQUIRED to open carry in my vehicle in NC, then once I get to SC it is REQUIRED to be in my glovebox, then once I get to GA it sounds like I must unload the gun, put it in a case, and I'm still researching to see if I can even move the gun from my truck to my beach house rental property. I honestly can't believe how stingy the carry laws are in SC/GA. I do not have my CHP yet.

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    Having or carrying handguns, long guns, or other weapons; license requirement; exceptions for homes, motor vehicles, private property, and other locations and conditions
    (a) Any person who is not prohibited by law from possessing a handgun or long gun may have or carry on his or her person a weapon or long gun on his or her property or inside his or her home, motor vehicle, or place of business without a valid weapons carry license.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    O.C.G.A. § 16-11-126
    Having or carrying handguns, long guns, or other weapons; license requirement; exceptions for homes, motor vehicles, private property, and other locations and conditions
    (a) Any person who is not prohibited by law from possessing a handgun or long gun may have or carry on his or her person a weapon or long gun on his or her property or inside his or her home, motor vehicle, or place of business without a valid weapons carry license.


    http://www.georgiapacking.org/GaCode...11&section=129
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    How does the law pertain to motorcycles? Once I dismount, am I in violation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATF Consumer View Post
    How does the law pertain to motorcycles? Once I dismount, am I in violation?
    Without a license or other exemption, yes. You would be reduced to either 'transporting' a handgun ("... in a case and unloaded") or carrying a long arm (a bit unwieldy).


    The license is inexpensive after the first issue and as Georgia is a "Shall Issue" state there's very little besides a criminal record that would prevent a qualified individual from getting one.

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