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    France takes retreat to new level: Foreign operations near ‘impossible’

    "France is on the precipice of a dubious first: the inability to successfully conduct military operations abroad. Members of the top brass in the French army, navy and air force — as well as its joint chief of staff — have threatened to quit if the government continues to slash the defense budget, the non-partisan think tank The Atlantic Council reported Friday.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-say-more-cut/

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    In all fairness, France has done more than enough ass kicking to last a few more centuries. In fact, their track record, by percentage of victories, is far greater than the US. I'm not entirely sure where the whole "run away" joke came from, but it's historically dishonest.
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    Dang it! I was relying on the French .... (for nothing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    In all fairness, France has done more than enough ass kicking to last a few more centuries. In fact, their track record, by percentage of victories, is far greater than the US. I'm not entirely sure where the whole "run away" joke came from, but it's historically dishonest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    In all fairness, France has done more than enough ass kicking to last a few more centuries. In fact, their track record, by percentage of victories, is far greater than the US. I'm not entirely sure where the whole "run away" joke came from, but it's historically dishonest.
    The WW-II Fall of France's Third Republic took 43 days despite the expensive Maginot Line. The Vichy Regime and Marshal Philippe Petain collaborated in authoritarian regime.

    The French and de Gaulle are blamed for Dunkirk. Charles de Gaulle in particular inspired great irritation with his declaration that Paris had been "liberated by her own people, with the help of the armies of France, with the help and support of the whole of France, that is to say of fighting France, that is to say of the true France, the eternal France," with no mention of either the Allied invasion or the Vichy French military contribution to the Axis' cause, was to be a long-term source of annoyance.

    ETA: Don't forget France's VietNam and Algerian adventures.

    During a televised debate, NBC news anchor Tom Brokaw asks Senator John Kerry:

    BROKAW: Senator Kerry, what about the French? Are they friends? Are they enemies? Or something in-between at this point?
    KERRY: The French are the French.
    BROKAW: Very profound, senator.
    KERRY: Well, trust me, it has a meaning. And I think most people know exactly what I mean.
    http://www.rotten.com/library/cultur...-francophobia/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    In all fairness, France has done more than enough ass kicking to last a few more centuries.
    can you cite some examples in just the last 100 years ?

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