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    Shooting in a gun free zone, Seattle Pacific University

    Looks like so far there are 7 people shot but nobody killed thank goodness. The suspect is in custody. I wonder if he would have gotten that far if there was someone from this community on campus...

    http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/...tims-reported/
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    Is the University classed as private or government owned? If the latter there might have been some that would have defied the gun ban if precedent was there even decades ago. Also depends on what is classed as a school in WA.

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    How are these guys managing to get guns past the signs??

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    Quote Originally Posted by rightwinglibertarian View Post
    Is the University classed as private or government owned? If the latter there might have been some that would have defied the gun ban if precedent was there even decades ago. Also depends on what is classed as a school in WA.

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    My understanding is that it's a private Christian school. If that's the case, does that mean that their no gun signs are completely illegal?
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    Kiro 7 is reporting 2 ROTC guys took the shooter down.

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    No it means that as a private establishment they certainly do have the right to ban firearms. If it was publicly funded then yes I would consider the ban illegal.

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    I'm not sure about this, hence my asking: Has the WAC authorizing colleges to ban firearms ever been challenged in court?

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    Latest updates state that 1 person is dead, 2 are injured, and 2 ROTC students subdued the shooter while he was reloading. I see a difficult battle keeping ammo prices low(er), keeping private sales legal, and keeping preemption.

    SPU is a private university - therefore they can ban firearms on campus. Public uni's I think can ban them for students per the WAC's.

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    Unfortunately we now have one fatality. Man oh man the gun grabbers are going to have a field day with this so soon after Santa Barbara.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acmariner99 View Post
    Latest updates state that 1 person is dead, 2 are injured, and 2 ROTC students subdued the shooter while he was reloading. I see a difficult battle keeping ammo prices low(er), keeping private sales legal, and keeping preemption.
    Ugh don't say that...I fear that Initiative measure 594 will have no trouble passing now.
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    Luckily he only had a shotgun and had to reload. Hate to say it but it provides the data they need/use to push mag caps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Luckily he only had a shotgun and had to reload. Hate to say it but it provides the data they need/use to push mag caps.

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    Apart from the fact such is an infringement and thus has no force of law regardless of what any corrupt judge or senator says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Luckily he only had a shotgun and had to reload. Hate to say it but it provides the data they need/use to push mag caps.

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    He had to reload a shotgun... I fail to see what that has to do with magazine limits. I know the liberal distortion ray might change that in the public eye, but they're two completely different things.


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    "13. Possession, use or display on University property of any firearms, weapons, fireworks, live ammunition, incendiary devices, or other items that are potentially hazardous to members of the campus community."
    http://www.spu.edu/depts/studentlife...pectations.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geerolla View Post
    He had to reload a shotgun... I fail to see what that has to do with magazine limits. I know the liberal distortion ray might change that in the public eye, but they're two completely different things.


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    Well even shotguns can and do have mag/tube limits depending on state.

    Just saying it draws attention that someone had yo reload after only firing 4 RDS and then was,subdued because he was reloading.

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    Indeed, but reloading a shotgun one at a time is completely different from reloading a semi-auto handgun or rifle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Well even shotguns can and do have mag/tube limits depending on state.

    Just saying it draws attention that someone had yo reload after only firing 4 RDS and then was,subdued because he was reloading.

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    Why do we need to bring up other states all the time? No limit in WA (except for legal hunting). This is the WA forum, talking about a WA event. Not picking on you in particular Primus. There a lot of people doing it recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Well even shotguns can and do have mag/tube limits depending on state.

    Just saying it draws attention that someone had yo reload after only firing 4 RDS and then was,subdued because he was reloading.

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    WA = 20 round drum for shotguns are legal.

    No limit, except no DDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golddigger14s View Post
    Why do we need to bring up other states all the time? No limit in WA (except for legal hunting). This is the WA forum, talking about a WA event. Not picking on you in particular Primus. There a lot of people doing it recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geerolla View Post
    Indeed, but reloading a shotgun one at a time is completely different from reloading a semi-auto handgun or rifle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by golddigger14s View Post
    Why do we need to bring up other states all the time? No limit in WA (except for legal hunting). This is the WA forum, talking about a WA event. Not picking on you in particular Primus. There a lot of people doing it recently.
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    You do realize WA isn't in some protective bubble right?

    2 things can and do happen. 1 congress gets dumb ideas and tries to pass federal laws. And 2 state legislatures get dumb ideas and pass dumb local laws based on OTHER STATES.

    Also, sure there's no limits now. Except tomorrow or the day after or whenever the antis get back at it they can easily say "see if they made it so EVERYONE was like this guy then it would reduce deaths".

    The antis pay attention on ways to screw us. And we envy other states that ate pro gun. So just pointing out what the antis will say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_pro2a View Post
    He's an idiot?
    Funny guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    You do realize WA isn't in some protective bubble right?

    2 things can and do happen. 1 congress gets dumb ideas and tries to pass federal laws. And 2 state legislatures get dumb ideas and pass dumb local laws based on OTHER STATES.

    Also, sure there's no limits now. Except tomorrow or the day after or whenever the antis get back at it they can easily say "see if they made it so EVERYONE was like this guy then it would reduce deaths".

    The antis pay attention on ways to screw us. And we envy other states that ate pro gun. So just pointing out what the antis will say.

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    Yes the entire country will slowly become California.

    Liberal
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    Super high cost of living
    Insane bureaucracy
    Controlled by unions, mostly prison and schools (hmm, odd coincidence there... prisons & schools)
    Totally bankrupt.

    Hey, at least it isn't *all* bad. And heck, WA is already over half way there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acmariner99 View Post
    Public uni's I think can ban them for students per the WAC's.
    Students are not university employees, they are customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Difdi View Post
    Students are not university employees, they are customers.
    Who agree to a student code of conduct. Break it and risk your degree.

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