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    New Range to Open in PW County

    Can only say, it's about time we had a decent place in the area:

    http://eliteshootingsports.com/
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    Not cheap, but not unreasonable considering what they have to offer.

    Only question I have at this point is can you shoot your own ammo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Not cheap, but not unreasonable considering what they have to offer.

    Only question I have at this point is can you shoot your own ammo?
    One question i have... is whether they will allow you to carry into the range, or whether they will force you to disarm in the parking lot (only to arm back up inside).

    Nice facility though. 100yd indoor range. That could be very nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blk97F150 View Post
    One question i have... is whether they will allow you to carry into the range, or whether they will force you to disarm in the parking lot (only to arm back up inside).

    Nice facility though. 100yd indoor range. That could be very nice!
    This is definitely worth watching. Since they will be in closer competition with the NRA headquarters range, one would hope they allow carry into the building. The NRA range allows this, open or concealed, loaded or unloaded. Also I wonder if they will allow draw and fire practice on the lanes as does the NRA range. I have been watching this one some since I first got word of it. This ranges is not very far from my house so it would be doable. And from what I understand, it will be open every weekday morning, unlike the NRA range which is only open Mondays and Fridays for weekday mornings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    This is definitely worth watching. Since they will be in closer competition with the NRA headquarters range, one would hope they allow carry into the building. The NRA range allows this, open or concealed, loaded or unloaded. Also I wonder if they will allow draw and fire practice on the lanes as does the NRA range. I have been watching this one some since I first got word of it. This ranges is not very far from my house so it would be doable. And from what I understand, it will be open every weekday morning, unlike the NRA range which is only open Mondays and Fridays for weekday mornings.
    According to their rules posted on the site. They allow holstered carry on and within, but you have to unload it while your inside.

    Won't stop me from checking it out anyway once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stickslinger View Post
    According to their rules posted on the site. They allow holstered carry on and within, but you have to unload it while your inside.

    Won't stop me from checking it out anyway once.
    Unloading it while inside means handling a loaded firearm on the premises. Perhaps they mean that it's okay to carry an unloaded firearm on their grounds but not a loaded one. Could give reason to reconsider things.
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    Thanks Stickslinger - we've seen the sign a couple of times on PW Parkway just before 66 announcing it was coming in Fall 2014 but were unable to make out a name or location.

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    Looks like this is going to be a very nice facility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickslinger View Post
    According to their rules posted on the site. They allow holstered carry on and within, but you have to unload it while your inside.

    Won't stop me from checking it out anyway once.
    Unless you have a CHP. From their range rules:
    All firearms must be holstered or cased in unloaded condition while going
    to and from the range. Law Enforcement and Concealed Carry Permit
    holders are allowed to enter the facility holstered and hot. For safety
    reasons loaded firearms are prohibited in certain areas of the facility
    where dry fire exercises may take place. These areas include all
    classrooms, the simulator room and the dojo. Again we would like to
    emphasize ALL firearms must be holstered or cased in an unloaded
    condition while traveling to and from the range. This is a requirement
    mandated by local officials in order for us to operate an indoor shooting
    range in this area. Be smart, put it in a case and come enjoy our range

    So how are they going to know initially, if I come in open carrying, that I have a permit?


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    Also I wonder if they will allow draw and fire practice on the lanes as does the NRA range.
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    when your sights are not on target. Appendix style holsters may be used
    only after demonstrating proper techniques to ESS staff. Proper
    techniques are defined by finger and muzzle discipline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tess View Post
    Unless you have a CHP. From their range rules:

    Again we would like to emphasize ALL firearms must be holstered or cased in an unloaded
    condition while traveling to and from the range. This is a requirement mandated by local officials
    in order for us to operate an indoor shooting range in this area.
    That particular guidance sounds like Prince William County (or the specific county locality where this range will exist) is trying to change the Commonwealth law regarding firearms transportation. It is my understanding of Commonwealth law that loaded handguns may be carried in a vehicle in plain view or secured in a container; loaded rifles and shotguns may be kept in gun cases in the passenger compartment or trunk.

    Am I mis-understanding the situation or their guidance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesCanby View Post
    That particular guidance sounds like Prince William County (or the specific county locality where this range will exist) is trying to change the Commonwealth law regarding firearms transportation. It is my understanding of Commonwealth law that loaded handguns may be carried in a vehicle in plain view or secured in a container; loaded rifles and shotguns may be kept in gun cases in the passenger compartment or trunk.

    Am I mis-understanding the situation or their guidance?

    I hope so.

    I read it to mean to/from the range within the building, but poorly stated. PW officials certainly know they cannot mandate carry methods.

    Now you have me curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tess View Post
    I hope so.

    I read it to mean to/from the range within the building, but poorly stated. PW officials certainly know they cannot mandate carry methods.

    Now you have me curious.
    I remember that PWC tried to enforce a lot of these rules on a previous range when it was getting permitted. The owner knew enough to tell them to back off - he did it nicely.

    He died before he could open up. I so miss having a range on the side of the county.

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