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    Stand Your Ground, analysis by Eugene Volokh. What SYG laws actually mean.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/v...actually-mean/

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    I read the whole article but I still don't have anything "intelligent" to say. Seems like common sense to me. I suppose it would make a very good reference to send people that just don't quite "get it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator View Post
    I read the whole article but I still don't have anything "intelligent" to say. Seems like common sense to me. I suppose it would make a very good reference to send people that just don't quite "get it."
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    Common sense is a very good thing.

    I well avoid a confrontation if at all possible.

    But well not put my self or my family at a higher risk doing so.

    If need be I'll defend them and my self with all legal means available and to the extent that the threat is stopped.
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    Does it really matter if it's legal or not when it comes to defending yourself or your family?
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    How is someone moving towards you loudly and aggressively not a pretext for self-defense? Provided this translates to reasonable fear of being crippled or killed, that is. Do I have to wait until I've been tackled to the ground and beaten half unconscious like Zimmerman? If I wait that long, I'm essentially putting myself in a position where I have to shoot them. If I draw the gun while they're still a few paces away they'll probably run off without a shot fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brace View Post
    How is someone moving towards you loudly and aggressively not a pretext for self-defense? [ ... ]
    It may be precisely a pretext, from Latin praetextum, ornament, embellishment, wrought before, a pretense.

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pretext
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/v...actually-mean/

    Yep, I'm done posting teasers to scholarly or extensive articles for the fools that read no further. To comment intelligently, read the linked article. Or not.
    The linked article was neither scholarly nor extensive.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

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