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    Need info to help friend of friend re: OC incident

    I know nothing more than what I am posting below. I received the below in an email from a friend. First thing I thought of was OCDO obviously and the numerous knowledgeable folks I have talked to over the years. Hoping someone on here can advise as to local resources for them:

    A family friend was arrested yesterday in Marksville LA. for having an open weapon on his body. When he asked why he was being arrested he dropped his hands by his side. His gun was on his leg and he was tased. I don't know all the details but we are trying to find an attorney in that area who might handle this type of thing. We are clueless.

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    I certainly hope this guy can work everything out. I know here in Baton Rouge there isn't anything that could prevent someone from OC. And I can't imagine Marksville having anything on the books that predates the preemption.

    Wish I had a name for you. Haven't had a need for one other than for insurance. Hope you find a pro-2A attorney willing to fight the fight.

    Marksville can afford to pay the fine for being ignorant of the law.

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    It's that furtive/threatening gesture that might have prevented a cop from safely going home at the end of shift.

    In all seriousness, folks need to be more aware of where their hands are and how someone who is extremely paranoid and fully expecting you to be wanting to try and kill him will respond to moving the hands. That applies wether you are armed or not.

    Not that I in any way support the actions of the cop - or of the friend of your friend - as I have almost no information to go on to even begin to form speculations let alone analysis.

    FOIA requests for dashcam video is probably the first step, while finding a good criminal attorney. This has nothing to do with RKBA at the moment - it's all 4th & 8th amendment right now. Copies of all (personal as well as official) notes, reports, recordings (audio as well as video) requested under FOIA as well as discovery (see next paragraph).

    Not sure how the procedure goes under the Napolianic Code, but elsewhere filing a notice of intent to file a civil suit can form the basis of discovery demands which are harder to duck that FOIA requests.

    And lastly, the friend of yur friend needs to avail himself of the right to remain silent and to answer nothing (cops or concerned family/friends) except on the advice and guidance of his attorney.

    stay safe.
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    There is more to this. Apparently the OCer was at a festival when this occurred. There may be issues related to carry where a permit was issued for the event as well as alcohol sales at the festival. The head of the LOCA group posted about this over the weekend on their Facebook page. LOCAL relayed what we could on our social media sites but have not heard much else besides the OCer needs a lawyer and was going to be in jail for the weekend.
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    If anyone has any other information I would be very interested to hear about it. If there is anything LOCAL can do to assist let us know.
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    Thanks for the replies and further info. Sorry for my delayed thanks. Have been mobile and haven't been replying although I have been lurking.

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    It sounds like some more details have emerged, in the tragic story of two Marksville police officers being charged with murder and attempted murder for shooting the 6 year old boy and his father.

    http://theadvocate.com/news/13907799...ficer-involved

    Smith, along with officers Stafford and Greenhouse, are among the targets of a federal use-of-force lawsuit filed in July by Ascension Parish resident Ian Fridge, who said he was tackled by officers, who also used a stun gun on him, in Marksville last year at an Independence Day festival. A gun rights advocate, Fridge said he was grabbed from behind by officers while openly carrying a weapon as the lawmen taunted, “you’re definitely not a local boy,” according to a complaint filed in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Louisiana. Fridge also said the officers took his cellphone and deleted his recording of the incident.

    Smith did not respond to requests for comment on the lawsuit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
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    FOIA requests for dashcam video is probably the first step, while finding a good criminal attorney. .


    stay safe.
    A FOIA request may be appropriate. But some states have it where discovery cannot be frustrated with a FOIA request. So checking to see if this state's laws have this conflict would be in order then the guy would know if the record would be unavailable under a FOIA request.

    Does not mean that he cannot ask under FOIA (and who knows, even if the law is like that it may slip through the cracks ~ but I have never seen it happen); his friend can ask but I would not be surprised if the "ongoing case" exemption would apply.

    So, always know in your state if you can do a FOIA request and it not be in conflict with discovery.

    And one may also have a common law right to get records in their state. Also, state specific as to any limitations.

    In CT, there is no conflict.
    Have no idea about the guy's state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    It sounds like some more details have emerged, in the tragic story of two Marksville police officers being charged with murder and attempted murder for shooting the 6 year old boy and his father.

    http://theadvocate.com/news/13907799...ficer-involved
    What does that have to do with the OP's post?

    Is the person in the linked article (Fridge) the person the OP is referring to? If so, he is already suing with regard to a previous matter, and evidently has legal help...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BB62 View Post
    What does that have to do with the OP's post?
    Everything, unless there was more than one incident with the same details during the July 4 parade in Marksville.

    These officers have a history:

    http://www.katc.com/story/30460349/k...-of-6-year-old

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    Everything, unless there was more than one incident with the same details during the July 4 parade in Marksville.

    These officers have a history:

    http://www.katc.com/story/30460349/k...-of-6-year-old
    My bad and my apologies. I didn't notice the age of the OP's post.

    I'm glad to see that there is a Federal lawsuit in progress.

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