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    New CCW Card

    Renewed my CCW this past week......got the newest version hard card...it's seems durable with no pix. Most county sheriffs should have the machine that makes them or should be getting one soon. No paper anymore.

    However, the cute little clerk doing all the work recommended to keep a pictured ID handy if requested to present the CCW ID. She made a caveat, it isn't required, but could help.
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    But it is required.

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    You're right.........however, I believe she was trying to jerk my chain. She could have said the sun was coming up......and you'd probably want to believe her!
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    Don't want to give anyone the wrong impression... Clay county by chance?

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    Understand....Greene County.
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    Wow, we've got a cutie in Clay county as well.

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    The clerks I've dealt with here have been very easy on the eyes. Although, there are a few others I've seen down there that you don't want to get ticked off at you. Fortunately, they didn't deal with the CCW.
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    Was there a filing fee where you renewed? I have renewed one prior time( at the DMV) and only had to pay the $11.00 for the the non-ID CCW card. Now there is a sign in the Sheriff's office stating there is a $50.00 filing fee for renewal. Is this the norm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavageOne View Post
    Was there a filing fee where you renewed? I have renewed one prior time( at the DMV) and only had to pay the $11.00 for the the non-ID CCW card. Now there is a sign in the Sheriff's office stating there is a $50.00 filing fee for renewal. Is this the norm?
    IIRC, the max they can charge for renewal is $50. The sheriff's dept here in Greene County charged $50; there are no additional charges; no more going to the DMV to get the ID card, the sheriff prints it off there now and it is as, if not more, durable than the DMV ID card.
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    St Charles County, $50 to issues a laminated piece of paper about the size of a business card. Cheap looking at that. It probably cost less than $5 to complete the process and done so in less than 15 minutes of effort. Took two weeks to get the thing in the mail. Not impressed, especially with the $50 fee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    St Charles County, $50 to issues a laminated piece of paper about the size of a business card. Cheap looking at that. It probably cost less than $5 to complete the process and done so in less than 15 minutes of effort. Took two weeks to get the thing in the mail. Not impressed, especially with the $50 fee.
    The new cards are printed immediate and are professional looking.
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    https://www.google.com/search?q=st+c...62%3B640%3B360

    It may look professional, but not $50 worth of professional....$5 tops.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    https://www.google.com/search?q=st+c...62%3B640%3B360

    It may look professional, but not $50 worth of professional....$5 tops.
    Now that may be true!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    Now that may be true!
    Just to remind everyone I can buy a gun at a store (Cabela's), in and out in 15 minutes, background check done, no charge for the background check by looking at the receipt. But to renew a ID card takes $50 ans two weeks.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Just to remind everyone I can buy a gun at a store (Cabela's), in and out in 15 minutes, background check done, no charge for the background check by looking at the receipt. But to renew a ID card takes $50 ans two weeks.
    Here, all one has to do is make an appointment; they conduct the background check prior to the appointment, then one walks in, signs where applicable, gives them the check/money order, they print the card and out you go....less than 15 minutes. My initial phone call and appointment was a week a part.

    From what the pretty clerk here said; they re-run your fingerprints and the NICS (or whatever it is called) checks, again...although you attest nothing has changed or no applicable restrictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    Here, all one has to do is make an appointment; they conduct the background check prior to the appointment, then one walks in, signs where applicable, gives them the check/money order, they print the card and out you go....less than 15 minutes. My initial phone call and appointment was a week a part.

    From what the pretty clerk here said; they re-run your fingerprints and the NICS (or whatever it is called) checks, again...although you attest nothing has changed or no applicable restrictions.
    St Charles does not do this, the appointment thing, to my knowledge. But, I'll ask them if that procedure could be used?

    I should have been more clear, 15 minutes to buy a gun, the BC is free-ish, and out the door I go with gun in hand. Two weeks and $50 to carry a gun that took 15 minutes to buy. Why is it that buying a gun is easier than carrying a gun.

    I think I'll pose that question to the good sheriff.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    St Charles does not do this, the appointment thing, to my knowledge. But, I'll ask them if that procedure could be used?

    I should have been more clear, 15 minutes to buy a gun, the BC is free-ish, and out the door I go with gun in hand. Two weeks and $50 to carry a gun that took 15 minutes to buy. Why is it that buying a gun is easier than carrying a gun.

    I think I'll pose that question to the good sheriff.
    Good luck with getting a reasonable answer.
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    Miller County

    Called yesterday to get an appointment to renew. Appointment was today at 11. In at 10:55 and out at 11:05 (at least 5 minutes was just talking after I had my new card). No fingerprints, no questions. Just signed the tablet and she printed my card. $50, but now good for 5 years instead of 3.

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    I expect that my county will be pretty efficient at renewals. Our entire sheriff's office has been quite good on CCW stuff since the beginning. Unfortunately, I moved and was up for renewal all in the midst of the unlawful acts of our governor. Just a few weeks afterwards the lawsuit was filed. *sigh*

    I did not know that the new ones do not have a picture on them. Now I want to see one but I don't think any of my friends are up for renewal in the near future.

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    Redbaron007, could you post a picture of your new CCW Card with all sensitive or private identifying information blacked or blurred out? I have the paper permit, renewed in December 2013. They didnt even provide lamination and recommended that i purchase self-laminating sheets from walmart, lol. So i am interested in seeing a picture of your new card, if you would please, or anyone else. Thanks in advance.

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    Here is a news story that shows what the new endorsement looks like. Mine looks very similar and I suspect that all will look very much like the one in the news story.

    http://www.kshb.com/news/new-missour...-carry-permits
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Here is a news story that shows what the new endorsement looks like. Mine looks very similar and I suspect that all will look very much like the one in the news story.

    http://www.kshb.com/news/new-missour...-carry-permits
    https://www.google.com/search?q=phot...2F%3B800%3B600
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    I'm not sure there is a statutory requirement for what the cards look like, but it certainly appears that some of the sheriffs work together to design one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcgunfan View Post
    I'm not sure there is a statutory requirement for what the cards look like, but it certainly appears that some of the sheriffs work together to design one.
    Here it is.
    571.101.8. The concealed carry permit shall specify only the following information:
    (1) Name, address, date of birth, gender, height, weight, color of hair, color of eyes, and signature of the permit holder;
    (2) The signature of the sheriff issuing the permit;
    (3) The date of issuance; and
    (4) The expiration date.
    The permit shall be no larger than two inches wide by three and one-fourth inches long and shall be of a uniform style prescribed by the department of public safety. The permit shall also be assigned a Missouri uniform law enforcement system county code and shall be stored in sequential number.
    The look is up to the sheriff issuing and you seem to be correct that the sheriffs got together and came up with a uniform design.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Here is a news story that shows what the new endorsement looks like. Mine looks very similar and I suspect that all will look very much like the one in the news story.

    http://www.kshb.com/news/new-missour...-carry-permits
    The picture of the one in the news story is very similar, if not exact. There are images in the background to help prevent the illegal reproduction of the card, similar to those on a regular driver's license.
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