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    Open carry is now legal in DC

    Good things happening


    http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2014/07...hief-puts.html



    Emily Miller tweeted yesterday that Washington D.C. Police Chief Lanier has issued an order that police will not arrest non-felons who are carrying pistols in the District of Columbia. This morning the Washington Post confirmed her report:


    In an order approved by Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier, police were told that District residents are permitted to carry pistols if the weapons are registered. Those who had not registered their handguns could be charged on that ground, the instruction said.




    The number of registered pistols is thought to be low.




    Lanierís instructions to police also said that residents of other jurisdictions without felony records would not be charged under the ban on carrying pistols.
    The District attorneys have said that they will be "seeking a stay shortly". It is not clear if the court will grant a stay.

    It is worth noting that the paper cites the 4th circuit as upholding Maryland's restrictive "may issue" carry law, but ignores the Peruta Decision in California.


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    Via Emily Miller: Police Chief Recognizes Carry Reciprocity in D.C







    Emily Miller reports:


    STUNNING DEVELOPMENT: DC Police Chief Lanier just told force not to arrest a person who can legally carry a gun in DC or any state.

    As of 6:24 p.m. on July 27, 2014, this is a welcome development. Many have said that the D.C. political establishment will ignore the judges order. This shows that Police Chief Lanier is, at minimum, unwilling to be found in contempt. Notice the broad extent of the order: no arrests for a person who can legally carry a gun in D.C. or any State.

    With 30 states having open carry without a permit, and over 11 million concealed carry permits valid in the United States, that is a lot of people who may legally carry in the District.



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    I am looking forward to seeing pictures of Open Carry in D.C.

    There are some great second amendment activists in Virginia. I think they will be taking pictures and video!

    It will take a few hours to get organized, so whether a stay is granted or not is important.

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    DC is in the DC Circuit, so 4CA and other circuit rulings are not applicable to DC until appealed and ruled on by SCOTUS.. Here is the relevant portion of Cheif Lanier's order. Notice the third paragraph. Some folks are erroneously reporting you need a carry permit to carry. This is not the case. If you are not prohibited in your state of residence, you're legal. Includes ammo. Only DC residents are affected by the ammo regs.

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    "Other charges may apply."......

    Seems vague enough to allow all manner of trumped up abusive charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superlite27 View Post
    "Other charges may apply."......

    Seems vague enough to allow all manner of trumped up abusive charges.
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    Aaaand that didn't take long:

    A federal judge on Tuesday granted a 90-day stay in a ruling that upended the Districtís ban on carrying handguns in public.

    The order issued by U.S. District Court Judge Frederick Scullin brings a temporary reprieve to D.C. officials, who were sent scurrying over the weekend to interpret the effects of the ruling that gutted the cityís restrictive gun laws.
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    Because anyone in power can suspend the constitution

    Because obviously any judge (or politician, president, law enforcer/bureaucrat) can SUSPEND the constitution (and the rights of WE THE PEOPLE) even after finding the law to be unconstitutional, because the polichickens of the District of Columbia harumphed and need time for a complete asspull.

    This is what is inherently wrong with our country.
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    "Metropolitan Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier has since rescinded orders instructing officers not to make arrests in such cases."

    This needs wider distribution. I'd hate to see someone who heard the initial reports get in trouble in D.C. And my wife wonders why I don't want to go to Washington...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Custodian View Post
    Because obviously any judge (or politician, president, law enforcer/bureaucrat) can SUSPEND the constitution (and the rights of WE THE PEOPLE) even after finding the law to be unconstitutional, because the polichickens of the District of Columbia harumphed and need time for a complete asspull.

    This is what is inherently wrong with our country.
    The problem is people think and act like the Constitution can be suspended. The result is always compromise and being subject to tyranny.



    THAT is what is inherently wrong with our country.
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    90 stay on stopping the enforcement of an unconstitutional law...

    Do people ever stop to think about that? Technically, unconstitutional laws are void from inception, with the legal decree just formalizing it and making it official. To grant a stay on the decree is to say that the legislature did not have the power to enact a law but the Court does have the power to enact it, if only for a short period.

    And suspensive appeals typically have a bond. Wonder what that would have to be?

    Edit: Oh, apparently Custodian did.
    Last edited by Seigi; 08-28-2014 at 03:47 AM.

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