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    Breaking: Charges Dropped Against AZ Doctor in Phoenix Airport open carry

    Just got in minutes ago from Alan Korwin, quoting Dr. Steinmetz:

    "No charges have been filed and my two hearings have been vacated."

    I have added it as an update to:

    http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2014/07...r-with-ar.html

    Alan says that the Phoenix area media are supposed to be airing this as I type.

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    did he not actually point it at anyone or what? weird story.

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    Probably not. Most likely, Just Police Harassment

    Hard to believe that there is no video of the event in question. The police gave video of the arrest, from airport security cameras, to the media when they were breaking the story. No video of the event.

    The way the accounts were worded, it seems the two women were contacted *after* the arrest, not the police being contacted before. That is a little uncertain, but it was highly suspicious to me that the accounts were worded in such a way as to make it ambiguous as to who contacted whom.

    Then the charges that simply did not fit the "crime". The fact that the Doctor had done this before, and was known to the airport authorities. It is similar to people being arrested for disturbing the peace during an open carry picnic, or at a "second amendment" day at a state capitol.

    It absolutely reeks of police repression of first and second amendment rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopis View Post
    did he not actually point it at anyone or what? weird story.
    http://www.abc15.com/news/region-pho...ide-sky-harbor

    It was nothing but a muzzle sweep; by the word smithing of the media, you'd almost have this preconceived notion that he instead shouldered the AR and aimed it when it was never the case.

    From the ABC article:
    "An arresting officer noted the Tempe man, "proceeded to remove the Stag Arm AR15 from his right shoulder thus causing the muzzle to face two victims." The officer goes on to note, “victims, a mother and her 17-year-old daughter, both stated they felt in fear for their safety when the rifle was pointed in their direction.""

    Notice also how the two are called "victims" to further reinforce the false notion that they were intentionally placed in grave mortal danger ("targeted" for shooting). Even in the video, the female anchor says "there WERE victims" and the male anchor goes on about it being a woman and her daughter. No mens rea, the only true victim was the man who was arrested.

    Quote Originally Posted by ccwinstructor View Post
    Hard to believe that there is no video of the event in question. The police gave video of the arrest, from airport security cameras, to the media when they were breaking the story. No video of the event.

    The way the accounts were worded, it seems the two women were contacted *after* the arrest, not the police being contacted before. That is a little uncertain, but it was highly suspicious to me that the accounts were worded in such a way as to make it ambiguous as to who contacted whom.

    Then the charges that simply did not fit the "crime". The fact that the Doctor had done this before, and was known to the airport authorities. It is similar to people being arrested for disturbing the peace during an open carry picnic, or at a "second amendment" day at a state capitol.

    It absolutely reeks of police repression of first and second amendment rights.
    He WAS targeted by Opinion Enforcement Officers; he also carried a rifle and pistol back in November of 2013. It seems they didn't like it, and a previous article quotes someone calling him "smug" for "knowing the law" about where he could and could not carry.

    From the November 2013 article (http://www.abc15.com/news/region-pho...t-sky-harbor):
    "The woman said the man and his son seemed to enjoy the attention they were getting.

    "The vibe that I received from them was that they were rather smug about what they were doing, that they knew the law. They knew what they could and could not do," she said.

    The woman is a long-time gun owner and supporter but thinks an airport is not the place for them."
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    Glad everything is OK

    I'm glad everything with Peter is good and he wasn't charged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javelina View Post
    I'm glad everything with Peter is good and he wasn't charged.
    He wasn't charged, but in the meantime he had to deal with being arrested, the attorney fees, and his reputation and image have been slandered by the "mainstream media".

    Don't know how he will proceed, but I wish him the best.
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    Press conference today at 3 at my attorney's office if any are interested. I can't say much more per attorney advice but will be updating links to stories etc. on my Google+ account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterNSteinmetz View Post
    Press conference today at 3 at my attorney's office if any are interested. I can't say much more per attorney advice but will be updating links to stories etc. on my Google+ account.
    I'm interested! Do you need to PM the address or can you post it here?

    Rules on open carrying and bringing a Gadsden?

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    Will be on the lookout for a link following the event; unable to get away til 4 or 5 pm this evening.

    Best of luck.
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