Two identical posts from different people :uhoh:
Will the real user/poster please stand up.
Me thinks Makarov may have meant to quote & forgot to include his own comments....
Two identical posts from different people :uhoh:
Will the real user/poster please stand up.
Where does it explain that?
"According to WHIO, 37-year-old Angela D. Williams was at the store at the time and collapsed while running away from the situation. She was taken to the hospital and pronounced dead. The coroner's office reported that Williams had a medical condition which was the cause of her death. The woman's coworkers told the station she was to be married on Saturday."
"...while running away from the situation."
Which situation? The man with the toy gun, or the police shooting the man with the toy gun?
I don't know the justification for the shooting, more information needed. What I do know is healthy people, or people in fair health do not just keel over from short term stress or even pain. A person must be on deaths door for that to happen, now it may have speed up what was already happening, heart disease, but you are talking probably no more than a month or so.
I have a weak heart, though not as bad as some and worse than most. My EF after surgery and before DF/pacemaker was implanted was less than 30%. And I didn't die after the surgery even considering I woke up during surgery. Talk about stress having your whole chest split open, tied down, and tubes in your throat so you can't call out for help. Long term stress is a killer, it is one of those factors that increases the production of fat in the blood. Not a doctor but I have had it explained to me enough times by doctors. Lack of exercise, smoking, drinking, stress, weight, eating habits as well as family history bring on heart disease, but this is all long term. One incident of stress did not kill her, she was going to die, IMO her death cannot be blamed on police, even if they unjustly shot the young man.
...the Fox link from above is more specific than the CBS...but neither says for sure http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...-shot-by-police-in-wal-mart-store-was-waving/
Have figured it out - PM being sent to him.Me thinks Makarov may have meant to quote & forgot to include his own comments....
In most states (all?) if it looks like a real gun and the actions of the person carrying it are perceived as an immediate serious threat, then use of deadly force is justified/excusable.
Adding to: 911 reports per the OP linked article of "pointing" the gun at 2 kids....
Not saying he DESERVED to die, but if the reports are accurate and he did actually point the gun at 2 kids (never point/aim at anything you are not willing to destroy) and then failed to follow the instructions of the police....
Question: Just how much time transpired between him being told to drop the weapon and the firing of the shots?
Kinda sickening. Shoot first, ask later.
If some one ever points a real or real looking gun at you I hope you have the presents of mine to ask is that real or is it a toy.
Do you really plan to shoot me or are you just fooling around.
Stupid people win stupid prizes.
I suggest you watch your hasty tongue, sir - before you make yourself out to be something you're not. There's no reason to insult me at all. You don't know any more about the case than I do.
Don't make me put you over my knee, boy.
Isn't that my line?
Not every itch needs to be scratched.
Not really. I do say "please" and "thank you."You're so damn demanding.
Problem is until we see video we do not know if he gun was pointed at anyone. The callers very well could have been MDA folk or supporters who followed Shannon Watts directive. Specifically to lie to 911 to get OCers hurt or killed. It does seem strange that someone would be OCing a pellet rifle, but again we do not know if the rifle was purchased in store or being returned. Until answers are forthcoming it is just not wise to make any determination.