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    NJ: Cops Confiscate Stabbing Victim Firearms and Powder

    NJ: Cops Confiscate Stabbing Victim Firearms and Powder

    Just when you thought it could not get any worse in New Jersey for gun ownership comes word of a man who was stabbed by his wife in Saddle Brook New Jersey. The cops ended up confiscating the man's firearms and breaks open his safe. The cops also confiscated his gun powder and now it looks like he will be charged.

    http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2...incart_m-rpt-1


    Who decides what amount of gun powder is illegal? The article says it looks like more than 30 pounds. Remember that the man is the victim here and he could be charged for having a legal product.

    "The sheer amount of gunpowder was illegal and could pose a danger to the neighborhood, the chief said. Charges were expected stemming from the quantity of gunpowder. "



    They threw the man's rifles into garbage cans! Read that again.

    "A Bergen County Sheriff’s Department officer brought several garbage cans to collect what appeared to be mostly long guns."

    If the man gets a defense fund going, I will post it.

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    and used the jaws of life to pry open his two 6' gun safes. It stated he was a collector. Safes are not cheap.

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    Why do people still consider NY, NJ, CT, CA and a few others to be part of this country, I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40sc View Post
    Why do people still consider NY, NJ, CT, CA and a few others to be part of this country, I don't.
    I'm an American stuck behind enemy lines in CT. I do not submit to illegal laws and illegal orders.

    I'm not moving .... the commies will be moved out

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    I read on another forum that Louis Nappen will be the man's lawyer. He is brother of Evan Nappan the famous pro-gun attorney.
    I am not a lawyer, I study the history of gun control laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    I'm an American stuck behind enemy lines in CT. I do not submit to illegal laws and illegal orders.

    I'm not moving .... the commies will be moved out
    While I am usually unsure of what tone you intend for your posts, I agree with the sentiment here: an unjust laws is no law at all, and this country must be taken back to its former ideals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest View Post
    I read on another forum that Louis Nappen will be the man's lawyer. He is brother of Evan Nappan the famous pro-gun attorney.
    I hope for nothing less than an out-of-pocket payment for the damages incurred to this man's property; from the man who wrote the warrant, the judge who signed it, and the officers who carried it out. They are no allies of the People.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest View Post
    I read on another forum that Louis Nappen will be the man's lawyer. He is brother of Evan Nappan the famous pro-gun attorney.
    It will take a young man in good health to enjoy the outcome of this - suspect we shall all be considerably older when the dust finally settles.
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    The victim is stabbed in the neck, then victims property is damaged and stolen, then our victim is charged with a crime...

    Since the weapon used against our victim was a knife, did the police remove all the knives from the property?

    This is outrageous! Only in NJ can a victim of a crime become a victim of a crime... From LE

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    More to the story.

    http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2...elated_stories

    Though, if 30 lbs is too much, what about the retailer who sold the stuff to him?

    NJ, nuff said. If liberty is valued then leave the state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    I'm an American stuck behind enemy lines in CT. I do not submit to illegal laws and illegal orders.

    I'm not moving .... the commies will be moved out
    riiiiiiiight.... let me know how that works out for you when SWAT comes a knockin.

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    The law actually says..................................

    federal law......new jersey may also have something more restrictive, but I have not found it yet.

    http://www.alliantpowder.com/getting..._handling.aspx

    13-3.7 Smokeless propellants intended for personal use in quantities not exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg) shall be permitted to be stored in original containers in residences. Quantities exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg), but not exceeding 50 lb (22.7 kg), shall be permitted to be stored in residences where kept in a wooden box or cabinet having walls of at least 1 in. (25.4 mm) nominal thickness.

    13-3.8 Not more than 50 lb (22.7 kg) of smokeless propellants, in containers of 1 lb (0.45 kg) maximum capacity, shall be displayed in commercial establishments.

    13-3.9 Commercial stocks of smokeless propellants shall be stored as follows:

    (1) Quantities exceeding 50 lb (22.7 kg), but not exceeding 100 lb (45.4 kg), shall be stored in portable wooden boxes having walls of at least 1 in. (25.4 mm) thickness.

    (2) Quantities exceeding 100 lb (45.4 kg), but not exceeding 800 lb (363 kg), shall be stored in nonportable storage cabinets having walls of at least 1 in (25.4 mm) thickness. Not more than 400 lb (181 kg) shall be permitted to be stored in any one cabinet, and cabinets shall be separated by a distance of at least 25 ft (7.63 m) or by a fire partition having a fire resistance of at least 1 hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Laigaie View Post
    federal law......new jersey may also have something more restrictive, but I have not found it yet.

    http://www.alliantpowder.com/getting..._handling.aspx

    13-3.7 Smokeless propellants intended for personal use in quantities not exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg) shall be permitted to be stored in original containers in residences. Quantities exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg), but not exceeding 50 lb (22.7 kg), shall be permitted to be stored in residences where kept in a wooden box or cabinet having walls of at least 1 in. (25.4 mm) nominal thickness.

    13-3.8 Not more than 50 lb (22.7 kg) of smokeless propellants, in containers of 1 lb (0.45 kg) maximum capacity, shall be displayed in commercial establishments.

    13-3.9 Commercial stocks of smokeless propellants shall be stored as follows:

    (1) Quantities exceeding 50 lb (22.7 kg), but not exceeding 100 lb (45.4 kg), shall be stored in portable wooden boxes having walls of at least 1 in. (25.4 mm) thickness.

    (2) Quantities exceeding 100 lb (45.4 kg), but not exceeding 800 lb (363 kg), shall be stored in nonportable storage cabinets having walls of at least 1 in (25.4 mm) thickness. Not more than 400 lb (181 kg) shall be permitted to be stored in any one cabinet, and cabinets shall be separated by a distance of at least 25 ft (7.63 m) or by a fire partition having a fire resistance of at least 1 hour.
    Cops say it is, or may be, illegal and most folks stop reading/thinking past that point.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopis View Post
    riiiiiiiight.... let me know how that works out for you when SWAT comes a knockin.
    I already had the threat of a SWAT team invasion if I did not comply with a police request; when I still refused I survived.

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