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    "Police have no duty to protect the individual" is not absolute

    http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index...howtopic=51031

    A link to the case via The Volockh Conspiracy (which seems to be wonky this morning (8/12) and an analysis that provides a good summary of the events leading to the case.

    Discussion at CalGuns http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showt...php?p=14645326

    Getting to the actual decision seems problematic this morning (8/12). Maybe later?

    Basically, the cops told Mr. Vaughn (at least two different times) to drop a stick he had picked up for self protection. After he dropped the stick the last time one of the people he was looking to protect hmself from walked up to him with a metal baseball bat and hit him on the head, causing Vaughn's death. The police never told baseball bat guy to drop it.

    Remember, the "arms" we have the right to keep and bear are not limited to firearms.

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    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...95#post2081795

    Includes URL to the instant court case.

    My URL was just verified working fine. WaPo is in the process of taking the Volokh Conspiracy fully behind their paywall. We will not have access much longer, end of the month is the target date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index...howtopic=51031

    A link to the case via The Volockh Conspiracy (which seems to be wonky this morning (8/12) and an analysis that provides a good summary of the events leading to the case.

    Discussion at CalGuns http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showt...php?p=14645326

    Getting to the actual decision seems problematic this morning (8/12). Maybe later?

    Basically, the cops told Mr. Vaughn (at least two different times) to drop a stick he had picked up for self protection. After he dropped the stick the last time one of the people he was looking to protect hmself from walked up to him with a metal baseball bat and hit him on the head, causing Vaughn's death. The police never told baseball bat guy to drop it.

    Remember, the "arms" we have the right to keep and bear are not limited to firearms.

    stay safe.
    I don't see where the guy (or his estate) argued his right to keep and bear arms were violated ...

    It would have been an argument that I would have made.
    Last edited by davidmcbeth; 08-12-2014 at 02:12 PM.

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