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Michael Brown unarmed shooting in Ferguson, MO

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Anonymous is claiming to know the cop's identity. They have apparently released a couple of cops' personal info despite the fact they they were mistaken for the cop that shot Brown. This doesn't look good for Anonymous, or the Constitution, or civil rights or due process for that matter.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/14/technology/security/ferguson-anonymous/

Also there are reports that the Feds have opened an investigation and that MO State Police have taken over security, with the FBI acting as command.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/feds-seize-control-police-operations-ferguson/

The letters SHTF come to mind...
 

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Family members identified the man as 24-year-old Ezell Ford, who they described as "mentally challenged."
If this is true, it sheds light in a whole different direction. If he indeed was as HIS family members say. But I haven't heard of this on ANY news broadcast.....probably wont hear this in the news, as maybe he was shot as a result of HIS own actions.....IF that is true, it takes all the wind out of the sails of those angered enough to rob, loot, destroy, riot.....uhhh.... because they were angry.. Im waiting for politicians to cry ALL those arrested for rioting should be set free, it wasn't THEIR fault they acted like they did, they were upset and just couldn't help themselves..... what better way to draw attention to the problems between police and citizens, than rioting and causing mayhem, and forcing the police to come down on them to protect the innocent and THEIR businesses.
 

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Ezell Ford was shot in LA, and he was lying on the ground and shot in the back supposedly. Totally different shooting, and possibly better reason to riot than the Brown shooting.
 

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Basically, here's how this country works right now:

1. Police randomly shoot an unarmed, innocent person.

2. Citizens protest.

3. Cops show up in full riot gear; cops and citizens start goading each other; a riot ensues.

4. Cops then use the situation they helped escalate as an after-the-fact justification for their heavy-handedness.

5. Police apologists praise the heroic defenders of private property against the onslaught of anarchy.

6. See step 1.
 

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Basically, here's how this country works right now:

1. Police randomly shoot an unarmed, innocent person.

2. Citizens protest.

3. Cops show up in full riot gear; cops and citizens start goading each other; a riot ensues.

4. Cops then use the situation they helped escalate as an after-the-fact justification for their heavy-handedness.

5. Police apologists praise the heroic defenders of private property against the onslaught of anarchy.

6. See step 1.

Which step is the rioting and looting? Property damage and citizens hurt by eachother? I missed it.

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police released his name just now.... Darren Wilson. One site listed him as mixed race but i cant find a picture of him. There was also a robbery by two black males at a convenience store nearby. That may have been the LEOs RAS for stopping them and possibly why they pushed back and ran.
 
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Basically, here's how this country works right now:

1. Police randomly shoot an unarmed, innocent person.

2. Citizens protest.

3. Cops show up in full riot gear; cops and citizens start goading each other; a riot ensues.

4. Cops then use the situation they helped escalate as an after-the-fact justification for their heavy-handedness.

5. Police apologists praise the heroic defenders of private property against the onslaught of anarchy.

6. See step 1.

Which step is the rioting and looting? Property damage and citizens hurt by eachother? I missed it.

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That's because you fail at reading.

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Basically, here's how this country works right now:

1. Police randomly shoot an unarmed, innocent person.

2. Citizens protest.

3. Cops show up in full riot gear; cops and citizens start goading each other; [size=+3]a riot ensues.[/size]

4. Cops then use the situation they helped escalate as an after-the-fact justification for their heavy-handedness.

5. Police apologists praise the heroic defenders of private property against the onslaught of anarchy.

6. See step 1.

I made it bigger so you see it before your eyes glaze over.
 

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marshaul, forgot coverup and misdirection by chief, it was good shoot and misleading who the actually LE was who pulled the trigger.

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Basically, here's how this country works right now:

1. Police randomly shoot an unarmed, innocent person.

2. Citizens protest.

3. Cops show up in full riot gear; cops and citizens start goading each other; a riot ensues.

4. Cops then use the situation they helped escalate as an after-the-fact justification for their heavy-handedness.

5. Police apologists praise the heroic defenders of private property against the onslaught of anarchy.

6. See step 1.

Assumption. Two wildly different stories told, and now we have new data to make our assumptions.

Meanwhile, our CINC is off drinking Cape Codders and having shish-kabobs.
 

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Assumption. Two wildly different stories told, and now we have new data to make our assumptions.

No assumption. Even the accused are innocent until proven guilty.

This talk about a robbery is so much hand-waving and misdirection. As I said, they better have at least had reason for the stop, but that reason has little to do with subsequent events.
 

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Well, I should hope the police at least had some reason for the initial stop.

That has little bearing on subsequent events, however.

That has little bearing on subsequent events, however.

That has little bearing on subsequent events

little bearing on subsequent events

little bearing

:uhoh:

Yeah, once the protesters figure out that he was a criminal suspect, they'll just put down the torches and pitchforks and go home. The looters will bring back the goods; "Sorry, my bad."

Had the police not been responding to a strong arm robbery, then none of this would be happening. So I'd say this development has a *little* bearing on subsequent events.
 

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No assumption. Even the accused are innocent until proven guilty.

This talk about a robbery is so much hand-waving and misdirection. As I said, they better have at least had reason for the stop, but that reason has little to do with subsequent events.

Court of law distinction. And we got fuzzy, grainy, possibly photoshopped photos.
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:uhoh:

Yeah, once the protesters figure out that he was a criminal suspect, they'll just put down the torches and pitchforks and go home. The looters will bring back the goods; "Sorry, my bad."

Had the police not been responding to a strong arm robbery, then none of this would be happening. So I'd say this development has a *little* bearing on subsequent events.

I'm not quite sure what point you're trying to make (I'm sure that's my fault).

Do you dispute my implicit contention that a "suspected robbery" provides justification for a stop, but in no way provides it for a subsequent shooting?
 
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I'm not quite sure what point you're trying to make (I'm sure that's my fault).

Do you dispute my implicit contention that a "suspected robbery" provides justification for a stop, but in no way provides it for a subsequent shooting?

No of wouldn't alone provide justification for shooting.

But it certainly adds credence to the officers claims the guy fought him for his gun.

IF that is the guy and he just robbed a store violently do you think he'd just say "ok coppa ya got me"?

He was just about to turn his life around I'm sure...

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:uhoh:

Yeah, once the protesters figure out that he was a criminal suspect, they'll just put down the torches and pitchforks and go home. The looters will bring back the goods; "Sorry, my bad."

Had the police not been responding to a strong arm robbery, then none of this would be happening. So I'd say this development has a *little* bearing on subsequent events.

Well said... If there was no robbery then they wouldn't have tried to stop this "kid".

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