davidmcbeth
Banned
Well his other daughter has been in bed at 8:00pm sharp every day since ....
[too soon?]
[too soon?]
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Deputy mistakes daughter, 16, for intruder, shoots her as she snuck in through garage
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EMNofSeattle
Regular Member
Too soon rule only applies to fatal incidents.....
Lyndsy Simon
Regular Member
Yes, condolences.
> Condolences are an expression of sympathy to someone who is experiencing pain arising from death, deep mental anguish, or misfortune.
They've definitely experienced misfortune and deep mental anguish, so offering condolences would seem to be the polite thing to do.
Condolences is something you give when someone dies or you hit your neighbor's dog. Not something you say when some dude caps his kid. Then you say "TABK."
If I were a cop that bust caps at shadows and hit my kid, I'd be mentally anguished too. At the thought of being in jail with people I put there.
It's ok. The union will pay for a lawyer and provide his kid with everything he's refused to buy her this last year. As long as she gets an iPhone, iPad, car and a few piercings, she should be fine. Might even refuse to testify against him.
I never snuck out as a kid, I just told my foster parents they couldn't do **** and walked out the front door. Coincidentally, the cops would always follow me around and bust me the second it was last curfew. Girls that sneak out are either getting high or pregnant. I know the type.
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It must really suck having to live amongst us and in a world that has more than just two colors (black and white - but no grey!))
But just to get technical all over your azz - the daughter could decline to testify all day long and not have any impact on the outcome of the case. And yes, cops have a legitimate fear of being placed in general population - as does the jail/prisom administration. That's why incarcerated cops are treated the same as the most disruptive inmates - administrative segregation puts a real cramp in your daily life and mental state.
I'm curious - did you learn anything in foster care except that when you broke curfew you got busted? And by the way - how's all that "rebel against authority" working out for you as an [strike]adult[/strike] person past the legal age of majority? Have you found out that there are people who do not think and behave like you? (You know, those getting high and pregnant or getting high and getting girls pregnant.)
stay safe.
But just to get technical all over your azz - the daughter could decline to testify all day long and not have any impact on the outcome of the case. And yes, cops have a legitimate fear of being placed in general population - as does the jail/prisom administration. That's why incarcerated cops are treated the same as the most disruptive inmates - administrative segregation puts a real cramp in your daily life and mental state.
I'm curious - did you learn anything in foster care except that when you broke curfew you got busted? And by the way - how's all that "rebel against authority" working out for you as an [strike]adult[/strike] person past the legal age of majority? Have you found out that there are people who do not think and behave like you? (You know, those getting high and pregnant or getting high and getting girls pregnant.)
stay safe.
marshaul
Campaign Veteran
DOB 1960? I think you have the wrong Huffman.
How is all this related to either this specific thread, or OC in Virginia??
marshaul
Campaign Veteran
Good point.
Please don't say that name here. Massa Doug may come back and is just as bad or worse than Badger or "I'm from Joisey" :uhoh:
And yes, the right Master Doug would have been born in the 40's.
papa bear
Regular Member
No, i never did i had my own house at 17. but when i did live with my parents. when i wasn't working. i would let them know what was going on. this was before cell phones. it was better if you wasn't in at a good time, you just didn't go in. slept in my car a few times
but neither of my kids did ether. they would let me know where they were, and what time i could expect them.
but then too. i would not shoot through my bathroom door, unless i knew whom was in there
papa bear
Regular Member
Let's change that from fear to "Arrogant". "it shows an officer that was so arrogant, that someone would have broken into his house he was going to shoot them. a lot of the same arrogance that get a lot of civilians killed these days
Well put!
papa bear
Regular Member
Well PETER, i hate to assume what was in the LEO's mind. could have been fear , could have been arrogance, could have been both
but this is what is in most LEOs minds. he did shoot someone who was not attacking him, and when he couldn't see who it was. not a good shoot in my book
OC for ME
Regular Member
13 year vet. Administrative leave, with or without pay was not mentioned. What is ironic is that he may be placed back on the job, with a gat on his hip. But, that is different, he used his own personal gat, not a company gat.
'Splain yourself. Are you suggesting that he is going to be able to duck a felony charge? Are you suggesting that he is going to be able to duck a domestic violence misdemeanor? Nothing in 18.2-57.2 says it has to be with evil intent. http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-57.2
18.2-57.3 gives the possibility of a deferred proceeding withouta finding of guilt http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-57.3 but even given the heartbreaking circumstances that's going to take a lot of guts for a Commonwealth Attorney to ask for or a judge to select. Even the non-gun community understands "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".
Amazingly, the elements of "assault and battery" and "malicious assault" are found in the Common Law and not the Code of Virginia. In Common Law a battery resulting in the spilling of blood is considered "malicious assault".
I'm just playing what-if games here, not trying to second-guess the CA and/or the judge. My "what-if"s all come up with at least the Lautenberg Amendment coming into play.
So how do you figure he will return to work with a gat on his hip?
stay safe.
WalkingWolf
Regular Member
I doubt the officer will be charged, is there a charge for being stupid? He screwed up royally, but the powers and the public will not want his head on a platter, because he is a cop. Nothing wrong with being a cop, but cops, and even former cops should be treated the same as the rest of society. That includes myself.
Are you saying you're former law enforcement?