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    Guilty cop's 20 mo sentence too lienent - so say court

    http://media.ca8.uscourts.gov/opndir/14/08/131145P.pdf

    Never seen a case like this one ... typical case facts..cops beats someone, arrests him, lies under oath, yada yada yada

    Court says 20 months not enough....

    "Oh crap" says ex-cop lol

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    I could only read the first couple pages before getting too angry to read more. Sounds like it was getting worse. Very glad to hear the cop is doing time with other criminals.
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    That's quite a bitchslap to the District Court judge. Which, IMHO, he deserves.

    Sadly, it seems that it takes egregiousness of this level to get through qualified immunity and have a civil rights conviction handed down.

    Based on the defendant's heavy use of his traumatic experiences as a child, I wonder if Bonds and/or Evans will try a respondent superior suit against the department.

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    Wow...from a minimum of 135 months down to 20?! Yeah, the district judge needed a slap in the face, and publicly so. I applaud this ruling. Especially inasmuch as the two victims will now fear law enforcement officers, probably for the rest of their lives.
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    The judges and prosecutors are part of the rotten barrel.

    No surprise though testilying and abuse is an accepted cultural norm in the circles these folks run in.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Good thread, and well timed. Now just have to wait for the apologists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Good thread, and well timed. Now just have to wait for the apologists.
    He's super busy as of late...no worries though...he'll catch up quickly.
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    I don't understand why the sentence was cut from the so-called minimum of 135 months to 20. Not a single, individual citizen would ever receive such a cut in sentence, but the civilian bureaucrats with guns do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    http://media.ca8.uscourts.gov/opndir/14/08/131145P.pdf

    Never seen a case like this one ... typical case facts..cops beats someone, arrests him, lies under oath, yada yada yada

    Court says 20 months not enough....

    "Oh crap" says ex-cop lol
    Thanks for the link, and for keeping your post relevant to the article.

    Read the entire opinion; Definitely made my blood pressure spike.

    Quote Originally Posted by Custodian View Post
    I don't understand why the sentence was cut from the so-called minimum of 135 months to 20. Not a single, individual citizen would ever receive such a cut in sentence, but the civilian bureaucrats with guns do?
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    The other cop, who beat a restrained citizen also, only gets a obstruction conviction?
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    "knowingly falsifying a police report with the intent to obstruct justice, in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 2 and 1519"

    This is relevant to my interests.

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    the two victims will now fear law enforcement officers, probably for the rest of their lives.
    As should we all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yard sale View Post
    "knowingly falsifying a police report with the intent to obstruct justice, in violation of 18 u.s.c. §§ 2 and 1519"

    this is relevant to my interests.


    As should we all.


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    Telling the truth about police officers on this website is considered cop bashing, and is a violation of rule # 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    Telling the truth about police officers on this website is considered cop bashing, and is a violation of rule # 15.
    No, but equating the actions of one to the body whole is the problem!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeSparky View Post
    No, but equating the actions of one to the body whole is the problem!
    Not until the body whole gets its **** together.

    A 20 mo. sentence. You gotta be kidding me! Lower court judges are downright corrupt when it comes to their treatment of LEOs.

    The barrel remains rotten, even if we can see one or two healthy stragglers peeking out from the hole left by this scumbag.

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    If the barrel is rotten the good ones are irrelevant. I'm sure you guys saw that lady talking about how this applies to the middle east problem.

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    A rotten barrel (the department) will spoil the apples (rank and file cops).

    This is why you "cop shop bash," not cop bash. Beat cops can change their department...well, in theory anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    The other cop, who beat a restrained citizen also, only gets a obstruction conviction?
    He pled guilty. Right, wrong or indifferent he knew if he fought the charges he would loose which would result in an unacceptable outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    Not until the body whole gets its **** together.

    A 20 mo. sentence. You gotta be kidding me! Lower court judges are downright corrupt when it comes to their treatment of LEOs.

    The barrel remains rotten, even if we can see one or two healthy stragglers peeking out from the hole left by this scumbag.
    I've been in court watching the daily revenue gathering process and hear judges say, on a regular basis, that they always believe the cop. And the defence attorneys don't even object.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Cops are officers of the court and deemed - presumed - trustworthy and honest by their fellow officers of the court. Either we are equal or we are not.
    So, that is the definition of impartial. I understand now....

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Good thread, and well timed. Now just have to wait for the apologists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by color of law View Post
    He pled guilty. Right, wrong or indifferent he knew if he fought the charges he would loose which would result in an unacceptable outcome.
    Yep he took the bribe offered him. Illegal to do but allowed by judges.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    Not until the body whole gets its **** together.

    A 20 mo. sentence. You gotta be kidding me! Lower court judges are downright corrupt when it comes to their treatment of LEOs.

    The barrel remains rotten, even if we can see one or two healthy stragglers peeking out from the hole left by this scumbag.
    There truly may be MANY "one" in my previous comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Where did you find mention of impartial, please?

    Have you ever enjoyed an adversarial relation with a court? You could not have to still consider impartiality.
    Firs off cops are not officers of the court.

    I would put my court experience up against any non-attorney. "Have you ever enjoyed an adversarial relation with a court?" Many times.

    With that said, I'm not sure I understand what you wrote.

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