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    need help with new gun buy???

    i took my ccdw test the other day, i passed and outshot everyone there with my ruger service six, yes the same service six i at one time thought of trading or selling because of a little rust and a few tiny pits. not anymore as at 7yds double action 20rds tore a hole in the plyboard that my fist would go through. i was the only one there with a revolver, now to my question. i have a safariland 568 for my service six, and will use it till i get another gun, but now it seems i can get another gun in about two months. i want a revolver and a ruger if i can, what do ya'll suggest? the 357 lcr or the 357 sp101? mabe something else? i know it's two months but i like to plan ahead, thanks

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    I have an SP101 and love it. It's the DAO with the spur-less hammer and the 2 1/4 barrel. It's got enough mass to shoot comfortably with all but the heaviest loads. It's just the right size for me as a smaller carry. I shoot pretty tight groups with it too.

    On the other hand, the LCR is very light and compact. It's easy to to carry and hide if you choose to CC. It's really a bit light for .357 loads but I don't think that'll matter much in a survival situation. Even with .38spl it's a little stiff to shoot, on par with a S&W airlight J-frame.

    For their intended use, both are excellent choices. One thing you have going for you if you stay with Ruger is that their DA revolvers all work the same so there's less to learn when switching between them.

    I really like Ruger revolvers and feel only Colts are superior. (I said FEEL all you flamers.) S&W makes excellent revolvers but feel and operate drastically different. I would recommend you go to a range that rents out fire arms and try out an LCR, an SP101, an airlight J-frame, a steel J-frame, and a K-frame.
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    If it's a revolver you want, and a Ruger at that, I'd go with the GP100 in either the 3 or 4.2 inch barrel and most likely in stainless. This is a very versatile gun and was built on the excellent Security Six design from over 30 years ago. Plus you get six rounds instead of five with the SP101.
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    Love my 3" GP100... awesome gun. Its not that easy to conceal though its kind of large...

    I like my Rhino much more for concealed. Six shots around the size of a j-frame and rather easy to conceal. Draw backs..? Chiappa has quality control issues. I have 2 Rhino's, and both had minor issues brand new... but Chiappa was great in getting 1 fixed, and I was able to fix the other. They feel more like a semi-auto when shooting, and very easy to keep on target, i really love them... but they are also quite expensive.

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    Hope the OP doesn't mind if I borrow this thread a bit, seeing as I'm in a similar situation:

    Want a revolver for discreet carry as my BUG while the 1911 is OC (that way I can also have that super tactical surprise advantage the CC-only types rave about).

    I would prefer a Ruger, and think .357 would give more ammo versatility. The candidates are the SP101 and the GP100.
    In regards to the latter, is it a viable option for someone who would describe himself as "medium-framed"? Anyone else carry either as a BUG while OCing something else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    If it's a revolver you want, and a Ruger at that, I'd go with the GP100 in either the 3 or 4.2 inch barrel and most likely in stainless. This is a very versatile gun and was built on the excellent Security Six design from over 30 years ago. Plus you get six rounds instead of five with the SP101.
    i already have a service six 4 inch, and holster to conceal it. i now want a smaller gun to use according to the clothes i wear. thanks

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    I have both a GP100 and an SP101. The GP100 is a bit big for concealed carry and significantly heavier. It's really Ruger's version of the Colt Python. The SP101 is much more suitable to concealed carry and I use it both as a BUG and a concealed only carry. All but the smallest people should be able to conceal it easily.

    Even though the SP101 is smaller and lighter, it is still a heavy framed revolver. You will have to account for that fact when you carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levi View Post
    I have both a GP100 and an SP101. The GP100 is a bit big for concealed carry and significantly heavier. It's really Ruger's version of the Colt Python. The SP101 is much more suitable to concealed carry and I use it both as a BUG and a concealed only carry. All but the smallest people should be able to conceal it easily.

    Even though the SP101 is smaller and lighter, it is still a heavy framed revolver. You will have to account for that fact when you carry.
    Thanks for the input; hope boomer92266 didn't mind me borrowing the thread a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Young Man View Post
    Thanks for the input; hope boomer92266 didn't mind me borrowing the thread a little.
    don't mind at all, are there any other reliable guns in the $0-$500 range that would be good for conceal carry? i can not go over $500 that's all i will have when it comes in. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomer92266 View Post
    don't mind at all, are there any other reliable guns in the $0-$500 range that would be good for conceal carry? i can not go over $500 that's all i will have when it comes in. thanks
    I've been looking at the Walther PPK/S and the Makarov pistol (if I decide to get a semi-auto BUG); they are very similar in design (some would say "suspiciously" so), but tend to be rugged, overly-built, and reliable. I've found the Walther in the $430-470 range more than a few times, and the Makarov may be found in the .380 ACP if the 9x18 Makarov doesn't convince you.

    I skipped over the Bersa Thunder (also a PPK/Makarov clone?) because of its magazine disconnect (won't fire unless magazine is inserted) as well as the Ruger LCP (I still don't trust polymers very much), but both can be had in the $340-380 range new, and both are chambered in .380 ACP.

    Hope this helps.

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    In the $0-150 range, you might be able to pick up a Hi-Point from someone who doesn't realize how reliable/rugged the design itself is. The execution may be rough, but nothing a little TLC (Tender Love and Care) can't fix. Also, the design lends itself to inherent accuracy. Ask me how I know.
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    Walking wolf has a hi-point in 380 & says it's a keeper. I have several in larger calibers and they are all damn functional guns. If you want a decent bug rusty might also check out Kahr's line up - the cw9 & cw40 can be had for under $300 new as of today's date. As with all semi autos they can be ammo picky, but I can save you some time and money there. Bonus they come in stainless at no extra charge
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    many many years ago i purchased a sw 340pd j frame 38/357 and absolutely love it...have a custom built leather holster with thumb strap and it goes everywhere with me as it slips into the back pocket quite nicely or my attache or under the arm rest of my truck....

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomer92266 View Post
    don't mind at all, are there any other reliable guns in the $0-$500 range that would be good for conceal carry? i can not go over $500 that's all i will have when it comes in. thanks
    Rusty listed several semiauto choices,to add to his list check out the CZ-82 and CZ-83.Kind of Makarov-ish pistols,.380 and 9mm Mak cals.IIRC they have 12 round mags,DA/SA action with cock and lock safety.I keep seeing them used at the gun shows for about $300.

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