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    This open carrier for officer down true facts....

    One of the arguments on the background check commercials is that it will make our officers safer, maybe. But what does our past tell us,

    http://www.odmp.org/search/browse?state=WA

    In the last 10 years there has been 10 officers killed, 5 in one year, and there were a couple of back to back years that no officers were killed.

    Of the officers that were killed by guns, how many would have been saved by background checks. I say none. Prove me wrong.

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    I tend to wonder how many would be saved by repealing prohibition.

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    Aircraft accident: 7
    Animal related: 2
    Assault: 9
    Automobile accident: 21
    Bomb: 1
    Drowned: 7
    Duty related illness: 4
    Electrocuted: 1
    Fall: 3
    Gunfire: 146
    Gunfire (Accidental): 12
    Heart attack: 12
    Motorcycle accident: 16
    Stabbed: 4
    Struck by train: 3
    Struck by vehicle: 8
    Vehicular assault: 13
    Vehicle pursuit: 9
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Aircraft accident: 7
    Animal related: 2
    Assault: 9
    Automobile accident: 21
    Bomb: 1
    Drowned: 7
    Duty related illness: 4
    Electrocuted: 1
    Fall: 3
    Gunfire: 146
    Gunfire (Accidental): 12
    Heart attack: 12
    Motorcycle accident: 16
    Stabbed: 4
    Struck by train: 3
    Struck by vehicle: 8
    Vehicular assault: 13
    Vehicle pursuit: 9
    What time frame is this from? I ask because only 111 cops total were killed in 2013, only 33 from gunfire. 121 cops total were killed in 2012.
    Throw me to the wolves and I will come back leading the pack.

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    I know that 1/2 the state police killed by shooting in my state were killed by other COPS !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Hayes View Post
    What time frame is this from? I ask because only 111 cops total were killed in 2013, only 33 from gunfire. 121 cops total were killed in 2012.
    http://www.odmp.org/search/browse/washington

    It looks like total number since records started being kept. Selecting gunfire, the last record, on page five, is from 1910.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    I tend to wonder how many would be saved by repealing prohibition.
    +1 And how many more would be saved from eliminating unconstitutional proactive policing with its myriads of pretext stops.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
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    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Cops would be better served to let citizens work out minor disagreements.

    Why in the hell does a cop, or the state for that matter, need to get involved in a dispute between a dude with over grown grass in his front yard and his neighbor who does not like it.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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