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    Four very good OC encounters and one meh

    Usually nobody even notices or says anything but last week I've had three, and one a month ago during the move.

    First (last week) in Amery, I was waiting for my old lady outside the grocery store and a kid herding the silver buffalo asked me very casually if I ever got harassed for carrying. He said he just turned 21 and wanted a handgun but didn't know how to use one and that nobody in his family owned any. I pointed him towards Sand Creek Firearms Training (a friend) and we talked for a bit about gun laws, why to carry and Barrack Osama. Good kid, heart murmur kept him from joining the Marines.

    Second, also last week, I met a Clear Lake police officer name Jose, who didn't even flinch about my OC. We talked guns, laughed about a drunk I watched him arrest a few weeks before (guy was claiming to be getting a rifle to kill cops with) and discussed the 2A. Good encounter.

    Third, last week, I blew a wheel bearing and almost spun out at 55 and needed to call the St Croix County Sheriffs dept to get my car tagged while I got my flatbed. The deputy noticed my carry and did a double take but didn't say anything and watched my kids while I pushed my car off the highway. He stayed with us until my ride came and never brought up the gun. We had a blast making fun of his cruiser. Pleasant change from the usual conduct I've experienced from that department.

    Last month, I was getting gas at a Freedom gas station in New Richmond and the clerk (girl in her late 20s) asked me about open carry. She said she was going to buy a handgun and asked what to get. I told her to rent a bunch and buy lots of brands of ammo and see what she can shoot the best and how they function with different brands of ammo before deciding on one and not to let the macho know it alls push her to buy a pink one or small one just because she's female.

    Only bad encounter was this witch at the WalMart TLE shooting me angry looks and loudly talking about my pen15 to her boy. I walked by, leaned in and said "why grandma, what a big **** you have" and she called me an "ammosexual" and I thanked her and sat down right across from her and kept flipping the channels until she left. The TLE guy gave me a high 5 for giving it back to her. Was a kind of bad, mostly amusing encounter. Life is what you make it.

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    Hey, I'm a "multi-ammosexual" then. Yahoo!

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    I understand Grapeshot don't take kindly to people posting about their Pen Fifteen on this here forum. You could be banned for dodging the forum nanny software.

    Besides, your stories sound made up. Nobody is that agreeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick9 View Post
    Nobody is that agreeable.
    Sure they are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick9 View Post
    I understand Grapeshot don't take kindly to people posting about their Pen Fifteen on this here forum. You could be banned for dodging the forum nanny software.



    Besides, your stories sound made up. Nobody is that agreeable.

    How do I dodge a filter if I do not know that pen15 is against the rules? I was attempting to make what she said less crude. Does your spelling of pen fifteen make you less guilty than me writing pen15 with numerals? Let's be hypocrites!

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    Doug, by all means tell us what you find humorous about that.

    I'm willing to bet your focus on my genitalia is interlinked with your obsession with me. ******.

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    Cool experiences, thanks for sharing.
    Advocate freedom please

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    Guess what the 6 stars spells Doug.

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    It rhymes with maggot.

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    I'm the only one that had to look up what a Walmart 'tle' was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallschirmjäger View Post
    I'm the only one that had to look up what a Walmart 'tle' was?
    No.

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    Tire Lube Express. Get tires rotated, mounted, oil changes, fluids filled, all that good stuff. They even put a blue paint strip across the oil pan nut so other mechanics know WalMart was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick9 View Post
    I understand Grapeshot don't take kindly to people posting about their Pen Fifteen on this here forum. You could be banned for dodging the forum nanny software.

    Besides, your stories sound made up. Nobody is that agreeable.
    The Brothers Grimm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    The Brothers Grimm.

    They're ok, but whoever wrote Jack Hanaford was a genius.

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    WIMWAG:
    When you visit Freedom in New Richmond, go to the one south down town. The manager's name is Jarl. He used to manage the Freedom in Ellsworth. Say hi to him from that gun toter from Ellsworth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Law abider View Post
    WIMWAG:
    When you visit Freedom in New Richmond, go to the one south down town. The manager's name is Jarl. He used to manage the Freedom in Ellsworth. Say hi to him from that gun toter from Ellsworth.
    Which one is the south? The one by Family Fresh or the one with the Burger King and car wash? I'm picturing Jarl as the guy with the brown hair, moustache and glasses?

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    It simply amazes me how many of these encounters you have. I especially like the way you straightened out the fictional old lady at Walmart. These stories do indeed sound made up.

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    There are others who have many more encounters than me. I suppose these people are just getting the courage to say something to me after 5 years of carrying in their town.



    What surprises me is the number of people on this forum who supposedly OC every day in states far less gun friendly than mine and in some where it requires a permit who never have anything good or bad to report. Makes me wonder if they're the type I've encountered that pat me on the back and tell me they love that I OC and that they ALWAYS CC and never give a reason why. "Nobody ever notices" my ass. Either you don't or you aren't paying attention to your surroundings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wimwag View Post
    What surprises me is the number of people on this forum who supposedly OC every day in states far less gun friendly than mine and in some where it requires a permit who never have anything good or bad to report. Makes me wonder if they're the type I've encountered that pat me on the back and tell me they love that I OC and that they ALWAYS CC and never give a reason why. "Nobody ever notices" my ass. Either you don't or you aren't paying attention to your surroundings.
    The only time I don't OC is when I have to go to school. I've been exclusively OCing in this state since 2007. I OC when I hike, when I take my daily run, when I buy groceries and when I go out to dinner. The vast majority of people simply do not react. Whether they "notice" is hard to say; does it enter into their vision? Does it impinge on their consciousness? Who knows?

    My rough estimate is that something like .1% of folks have something negative to say, 1% of folks have something positive to say, 20% of folks notice but don't say anything, and the remaining 78.9% are completely oblivious.

    Now, Virginia certainly qualifies as a "gun-friendly" state, but there are plenty of transplants in NoVA. Ironically, of the handful of negative encounters I've had, the majority were from "gun guys" (read: FUDDs) anyway. Also, my limited experience OCing in California was overwhelming not-negative (until OC was banned, of course).

    I might turn it around and suggest that if you find reaction to be the norm, you are in some manner drawing attention to yourself before the gun even comes into play. (Not that I care or am criticizing you.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    The only time I don't OC is when I have to go to school. I've been exclusively OCing in this state since 2007. I OC when I hike, when I take my daily run, when I buy groceries and when I go out to dinner. The vast majority of people simply do not react. Whether they "notice" is hard to say; does it enter into their vision? Does it impinge on their consciousness? Who knows?

    My rough estimate is that something like .1% of folks have something negative to say, 1% of folks have something positive to say, 20% of folks notice but don't say anything, and the remaining 78.9% are completely oblivious.

    Now, Virginia certainly qualifies as a "gun-friendly" state, but there are plenty of transplants in NoVA. Ironically, of the handful of negative encounters I've had, the majority were from "gun guys" (read: FUDDs) anyway. Also, my limited experience OCing in California was overwhelming not-negative (until OC was banned, of course).

    I might turn it around and suggest that if you find reaction to be the norm, you are in some manner drawing attention to yourself before the gun even comes into play. (Not that I care or am criticizing you.)

    Or maybe the negative reaction could be the fact that the majority of my negative reactions is due to the close proximity to the Minnesota border? Wisconsin sales tax is 2.5% lower than Minnesota tax, and we don't tax food as well. For those living in White Bear Lake, Arden Hills and Stillwater, we are close enough that what you save in taxes equals out to more than the gas required to get here. The Walmart where I had the negative reaction at sometimes sports more Minnesota plates in the parking lot than Wisconsin plates.

    I suppose my age has something to do with it. Maybe the fact that I am from the hip hop generation and therefore get stereotyped could have a lot to do with it...I certainly get judged a lot.

    But then again, I could say it a hundred times over and some of you would simply ignore it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    That's oddly specific. Five years ago is 2009 but rings no open carry bells, or concealed carry.
    First handgun?

    I started carrying in 2007, when I acquired my first 1911.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wimwag View Post
    I suppose my age has something to do with it. Maybe the fact that I am from the hip hop generation and therefore get stereotyped could have a lot to do with it...I certainly get judged a lot.
    Do you still dress like a youth?

    I, too, am from the "hip-hop generation", but that doesn't dictate or alter my appearance. At the same time, I can't stomach the thought of looking corporate or WASPy, so some years back I started to dress "Western". This way I get to look nice while still maintaining some individuality.

    "Hip-hop" clothing is notable for being intentionally garish, being designed by (for lack of a better word) louts whose sole object is to attract as much attention to themselves as possible. It's also notable for being universally considering ugly by basically everybody else.

    If you dress like a "hip-hopper", I think we've identified the issue.

    Keep in mind I'm all for diversity, and I have no problem with folks who dress "hip-hop" arming themselves (and, in so doing, "representing" the OC movement). The more the merrier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    First handgun?



    I started carrying in 2007, when I acquired my first 1911.

    Unless someone else quotes the Massa, I don't see it. He was trying to call me a liar. I set foot in New Richmond for the first time around 5 years ago. I have been open carrying pretty much daily since 2009, when JB Van Hollen wrote the advisory memorandum, which I did not find out about until 2011. Before that, I had to compromise with my gf because she didn't like being patted down. I lived in New Richmond for 4 1/2 years until just a month ago when I bought a house elsewhere.

    I OCd before 2009, but not every day. My first handgun was a Beretta 92FS. I bought it from a friend's father for $250. Both were bought in 2005. The second was a Colt Commander. I bought that a week later from a coworker. I lost both to the Menomonie PD in 2007. Things they take for "safekeeping" have a habit of disappearing. For those curious, in 2007 I was 23. OC has been legal and constitutionally protected in Wisconsin since 1848 and pretty much always when it was a territory.

    Try again Doug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    Do you still dress like a youth?

    I, too, am from the "hip-hop generation", but that doesn't dictate or alter my appearance. At the same time, I can't stomach the thought of looking corporate or WASPy, so some years back I started to dress "Western". This way I get to look nice while still maintaining some individuality.

    "Hip-hop" clothing is notable for being intentionally garish, being designed by (for lack of a better word) louts whose sole object is to attract as much attention to themselves as possible. It's also notable for being universally considering ugly by basically everybody else.

    If you dress like a "hip-hopper", I think we've identified the issue.

    Keep in mind I'm all for diversity, and I have no problem with folks who dress "hip-hop" arming themselves (and, in so doing, "representing" the OC movement). The more the merrier.

    The issue is not how I dress. It's your prejudice. My rights are not subject to the prejudices and personal opinions of others. I don't associate everyone wearing ripped dirty jeans, John Deere hats and shirts with the sleeves ripped off with the bigoted rednecks who look that way on TV. But I guess it's just too much to request that of others.

    If my clothing is designed to attract attention, then what is that giant belt buckle, neon colored NASCAR shirt and giant cowboy hat supposed to do? Attract attention.

    Point being, I will dress how I please and everyone else will **** off.

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