Primus
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Why are you yelling? On the internet....
See the issue? You've yelled this entire post (!!!!!!!). So how did you act when actually confronted and told to leave? Maybe more !!!!!!!!s?
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I was just asked to leave Target Master Gun Shop in Columbia, Mo.
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Why are you yelling? On the internet....
See the issue? You've yelled this entire post (!!!!!!!). So how did you act when actually confronted and told to leave? Maybe more !!!!!!!!s?
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twoskinsonemanns
Regular Member
Shop open to the public seems like a good enough place. Although your condescension definitely has me rethinking my ways
Redbaron007
Regular Member
This thread reminds me of the CCW Vs OC debate.
OC for ME
Regular Member
Your willingness to enter upon another citizen's private property, as the OP did, to chastise them for their opinion is noted.Shop open to the public seems like a good enough place. Although your condescension definitely has me rethinking my ways
OC for ME
Regular Member
Sort of, ain't it.This thread reminds me of the CCW Vs OC debate.
To me, anyway, this is more a private property issue.
Not sure why folks believe they can go onto someone else's property and talk smack. Believe the owner must stand there and take the smacking, and when the owner don't the smacker then gets all bent outta shape when he gets kicked out for talking smack to a dude who ain't gunna take no smack.
Hill, and his opinion, is not a unknown entity in this state. The CC Industrial Complex is strong with him. Remember, constitutional carry is the death knell of the CC Industrial Complex..or so the chose to believe.
twoskinsonemanns
Regular Member
lol describing it that way does not change the fact that it's actually a commercial business open to the public.
logunowner
Regular Member
Exactly, I had said the very same thing several posts back!!! It is a very simple concept in my opinion.
OC for ME
Regular Member
You are in the "right" but you did it the wrong way. Your 1A stops at his front door. Be "right" from the sidewalk.
logunowner
Regular Member
In your opinion my 1A stops at his front door, but my view has been from the beginning since he abused his 1A my 2A trumps his 1A!!!!
In what should be everyone's opinion, your rights under the 1A do end at his front door. You see, that is private property, and is not bound by the First Amendment, as it should be. And he had not abused his 1A rights an any way. And the 2A doors not trump any other amendment in any fashion. Your protestations continue to get more indefensible.
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logunowner
Regular Member
But, his front door does led to a public area, it leads to a very well defined public area upon which he has control, which he exercised his control and I followed his request. It really is that simple!!!!! In my opinion he had abused his 1A, by spewing falsehoods that undermined the subject matter of which he was being questioned by the reporter filling the general public with the idea that open carry is a problem in the Columbia area!!!!!! My stance on this subject is very defendable with logic and fact supported by well established law that commercial property is accessible by the public in which they are free to exercise their freedoms.
It is my experience that some people will lock onto a idea that they will defend even when faced with indisputable fact!!!
OC for ME
Regular Member
It is official, you have left liberty far behind. I'll leave you to your efforts to convince Mr. Hill to, in the future, exercise his 1A as you deem appropriate.
WalkingWolf
Regular Member
What type of business is his front door attached to?
If somebody came to my front door frothing at the mouth I would sick the dogs on them. Any aggression on their part would result in the greybar hotel after the meat wagon ride.
The constitution does not afford being a jack hole, on somebody's property.
If somebody came to my front door frothing at the mouth I would sick the dogs on them. Any aggression on their part would result in the greybar hotel after the meat wagon ride.
The constitution does not afford being a jack hole, on somebody's property.
Drytchnath
New member
I'm still confused on what you thougt to accomplish by going into the store. Did you actually think that you could talk him or anyone else there into supporting OC? It seems to me that you went to cause a scene, unless I'm mistaken and you went to shop.
Some people will actually judge all of us by the actions of a few, just like some Americans think all muslims are terrorists. A group will always be judged first by the most extreme among them.
People here do support your stance, just not your actions. You are mixing those two up. You do have every right to do as you did, especially since you left as soon as you were asked but that doesn't mean most of us think it was a smart choice.
Some people will actually judge all of us by the actions of a few, just like some Americans think all muslims are terrorists. A group will always be judged first by the most extreme among them.
People here do support your stance, just not your actions. You are mixing those two up. You do have every right to do as you did, especially since you left as soon as you were asked but that doesn't mean most of us think it was a smart choice.
logunowner
Regular Member
"Any aggression on their part would result in the greybar hotel after the meat wagon ride."
This quote is a prime example of someone that has been part of an organization or this case a forum for so long that they feel they can exceed any limit of respect they so desire and that their opinion is the one that must be the final answer!!!
This discussion has really exceeded the limit of discussion with common sense people...
This quote is a prime example of someone that has been part of an organization or this case a forum for so long that they feel they can exceed any limit of respect they so desire and that their opinion is the one that must be the final answer!!!
This discussion has really exceeded the limit of discussion with common sense people...
You know, when the world seems set against you, it's likely a good idea to consider that you may be incorrect.
With that I'm out, because you appear to have an inability to believe that you could be in the wrong, so there is no rational basis to continue this discussion.
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With that I'm out, because you appear to have an inability to believe that you could be in the wrong, so there is no rational basis to continue this discussion.
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WalkingWolf
Regular Member
You get the respect you earn, and on my property act like an ass and you will be treated like an ass. YOUR choice.
logunowner
Regular Member
Earning respect is certainly a two way street!!!
So if I enter your place of BUSINESS and say something you don't agree with it " would result in the greybar hotel after the meat wagon ride." So much for respect, your discussion has become very alarming.....
Discussion is over for me as well!!!
So if I enter your place of BUSINESS and say something you don't agree with it " would result in the greybar hotel after the meat wagon ride." So much for respect, your discussion has become very alarming.....
Discussion is over for me as well!!!
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twoskinsonemanns
Regular Member
Ridiculous! Hey cannot take away my freedom of speech beyond his threshold. He can certainly demand I leave his property but that does not restrict my rights while I'm there.
A person can go into his business and tell him off and he can demand they leave and they must leave. Everyone in the right.
WalkingWolf
Regular Member
I beg to differ, the moment you are told to leave you need to high tail it, and shut up. Otherwise you can be charged with DC, and a restraining order leveled costing you your gun rights. Personally I wish we could just whip the tar out of A holes and leave them in the ditch, I think it works better.