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    14 y.o. in desecration case, prohibited as an adult? Eugene Volokh Conspiracy

    If the 14-year-old in the Pennsylvania Jesus statute "desecration" case is found guilty, would he be barred from owning guns as an adult? By Eugene Volokh
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    I don't believe any free person should be barred from owning firearms.
    Quote Originally Posted by Primus
    "Well.... If you take my hat. Decide to wear my hat. Its in your possession ."

    "I call popo say "he has my hat i left it at his house". They go talk to you. You say its yours. Sounds like a civil court matter."

    "Now I instead say he robbed me... Well popo done go and cuff you up I keep hat or it goes to go to court I testify you done did rob me. You now have to prove you didn't...."

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    As Prof. Volk points out, a lot hinges on what court tries what charge.

    If tried as a juvenile in a court not of record, there is neither a felony nor a misdemeanor. The defendant juvenile before the court can be found in need of serevices, or in need of supervision, and might even get sent to juvie prison for the next 4 (age 18) or 7 (age 21) years.

    If there is a transfer hearing and the individual is found competent to be tried as an adult the most he could get is 2 years. But in "§ 921(a)(20)(B), one sees that, 'The term ‘crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year’ does not include … any State offense classified by the laws of the State as a misdemeanor and punishable by a term of imprisonment of two years or less.'"

    Prof. Volk's attempts at defining what is an object of veneration and whether desecration applies only to one or some different class of objects is just so much distraction. As is his tangent regarding various First Amendment cases because in all of them there was a clear intent to make a political statement where no such intent can be observed in the instant case.

    The easy answer is "No." The detailed, fully thought out answer is "It depends."

    But that all hinges on how the crime is reported, how the case is reported, and how the verdict is reported. Even though it "seems" that he would not fall into the group of disqualified persons he may need to spend the next four (or more) years trying to establish that.

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    Its a goofy charge to begin with...more nanny state.

    Let Jesus handle the issue. Not Joe Law.

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    The current administration's DOJ would never permit prosecution of anyone for desecrating anything Christian. Pax...
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