Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 57

Thread: Sprouts = gunbusters

  1. #1
    Regular Member Elm Creek Smith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    In the county.
    Posts
    212

    Thumbs down Sprouts = gunbusters

    Stopped at the new Sprouts grocery in Broken Arrow yesterday afternoon. I didn't see a "gunbuster" sign on the way in the door, and my wife and I completed our shopping in short order. On the way out, though, a sign on the glass between the sliding door and the wall caught my eye. It was a dark green rectangular outline with the words "NO FIREARMS ALLOWED" in black letters. From the outside on a bright sunny, it was almost invisible. I didn't have a problem since I was carrying concealed at the time (We were on our way home from a wedding.), but I can see someone missing their "stealth" gunbuster sign while open carrying and getting embarrassed/harassed.

    Seems a shame, because it's a really nice store. Too bad I won't be going back.
    Last edited by Elm Creek Smith; 09-15-2014 at 09:13 AM.
    "If the truth hurts, it should." - Dad

    " A year from now, ten, they'll swing back to the belief that they can make people... better. And I do not hold to that. So no more running. I aim to misbehave." - Malcolm Reynolds, Serenity

    "The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter." - Sam Spade, The Maltese Falcon

  2. #2
    Regular Member twoskinsonemanns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    WV
    Posts
    2,489
    Never heard of Sprouts before my visit to CO last week. They had the same exact sign you described in the same exact place. I did not purchase anything.
    "I support the ban on assault weapons" - Donald Trump

    We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission - Ayn Rand

  3. #3
    Campaign Veteran MSG Laigaie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Philipsburg, Montana
    Posts
    3,137
    Please let them know that you will not be spending your hard earned dollars on their misguided efforts to disarm the People. They need to know.
    "Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth (and) keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference .When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour." -- George Washington

  4. #4
    Regular Member Elm Creek Smith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    In the county.
    Posts
    212
    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Laigaie View Post
    Please let them know that you will not be spending your hard earned dollars on their misguided efforts to disarm the People. They need to know.
    Going to contact all the local stores directly. I contacted Sprouts through their website with the following complaint:

    "My wife and I stopped at your new store in Broken Arrow, OK, yesterday 09/14/2014. I was disappointed to see a 'NO FIREARMS ALLOWED' sign next to the door as we left. Worse, the 'NO FIREARMS ALLOWED' sign was off to one side of the door, outlined in a dark shade of green with black letters, rendering it difficult to see from the outside on a bright day. This is a problem because, had I seen the sign, we wouldn't have spent any money in your store since I refuse to support companies that don't respect my civil rights.

    Until you change your policy, we will not patronize any of your locations, and we will inform our families and friends that Sprouts doesn't respect law-abiding citizens who have Oklahoma Handgun Licenses.

    'NO SPROUTS ALLOWED'"
    Last edited by Elm Creek Smith; 09-15-2014 at 12:28 PM.
    "If the truth hurts, it should." - Dad

    " A year from now, ten, they'll swing back to the belief that they can make people... better. And I do not hold to that. So no more running. I aim to misbehave." - Malcolm Reynolds, Serenity

    "The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter." - Sam Spade, The Maltese Falcon

  5. #5
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Jefferson County, CO
    Posts
    260
    Thanks for posting this. I'm in Colorado, and there are two locations relatively near me - and we used to frequent one of them. I will check to see if is posted. If so, I'll let them know my feelings. If not, i'll contact corporate (via website) about the experiences shared in this thread.

  6. #6
    Regular Member twoskinsonemanns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    WV
    Posts
    2,489
    I sent them a message through their website. Since I did not make a purchase specifically because of the sign I thought I would give them the benefit of an explanation why they lost my business.
    "I support the ban on assault weapons" - Donald Trump

    We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission - Ayn Rand

  7. #7
    Regular Member Elm Creek Smith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    In the county.
    Posts
    212
    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    Never heard of Sprouts before my visit to CO last week. They had the same exact sign you described in the same exact place. I did not purchase anything.
    Thank you. If someone is going to post gunbuster signs, they should be proud enough of them to make them absolutely unmistakable. I stopped outside Jared's jewelry store one day and stared at the gunbuster sign until a manager came out to ask me if he could help me. I told him that I had come to spend a couple of thousand dollars on a gift for my wife but that his company wouldn't let me. He seemed real confused over my refusal to "just leave [my] gun in the car."
    "If the truth hurts, it should." - Dad

    " A year from now, ten, they'll swing back to the belief that they can make people... better. And I do not hold to that. So no more running. I aim to misbehave." - Malcolm Reynolds, Serenity

    "The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter." - Sam Spade, The Maltese Falcon

  8. #8
    Regular Member twoskinsonemanns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    WV
    Posts
    2,489
    Quote Originally Posted by Elm Creek Smith View Post
    Thank you. If someone is going to post gunbuster signs, they should be proud enough of them to make them absolutely unmistakable. I stopped outside Jared's jewelry store one day and stared at the gunbuster sign until a manager came out to ask me if he could help me. I told him that I had come to spend a couple of thousand dollars on a gift for my wife but that his company wouldn't let me. He seemed real confused over my refusal to "just leave [my] gun in the car."
    heh heh heh nice.
    You're absolutely right about the sign. I was with my brother at the time. He didn't see it. I saw it because I automatically scan every store looking for one. You could see it barely when the sliding glass doors were closed. When the doors were open there are two layers of tinted glass covering it and it's nearly impossible. I got a picture of it on my phone somewhere. I'll post it just for kicks in the next couple days.
    "I support the ban on assault weapons" - Donald Trump

    We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission - Ayn Rand

  9. #9
    Regular Member twoskinsonemanns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    WV
    Posts
    2,489
    Dear ,

    Thank you for taking the time to share your ideas about our decision to prohibit firearms in our stores. Please understand that we recognize and respect our customersí rights under the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, a right that prohibits the government (but not private retailers) from infringing on citizensí right to bear arms.

    That right, however, must be balanced with our need as a retailer to address concerns of a majority of our customers and team members. That's why, after careful and thoughtful analysis, we have decided to prohibit our customers and our team members from bringing firearms onto our store premises.

    While this decision may disappoint some of our valued customers, such as yourself, we stand by our decision and have received overwhelmingly positive feedback from our communities about it.

    Sincerely,

    Danne
    Customer Relations | Sprouts Farmers Market
    "I support the ban on assault weapons" - Donald Trump

    We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission - Ayn Rand

  10. #10
    Regular Member Elm Creek Smith's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    In the county.
    Posts
    212
    I got EXACTLY the same email response! Wow! Now I have to consider my response...
    "If the truth hurts, it should." - Dad

    " A year from now, ten, they'll swing back to the belief that they can make people... better. And I do not hold to that. So no more running. I aim to misbehave." - Malcolm Reynolds, Serenity

    "The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter." - Sam Spade, The Maltese Falcon

  11. #11
    Regular Member twoskinsonemanns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    WV
    Posts
    2,489
    Here's that pic I promised. This is with the outer doors closed and you can still barely see it.

    I also have been considering a reply. Maybe something to do with being relieved to know that if, in the future, I am in a tight bind it is great knowing that there is a business out there completely defenseless.
    "I support the ban on assault weapons" - Donald Trump

    We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission - Ayn Rand

  12. #12
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Midwest City, OK
    Posts
    35
    Dear Danne, Chipotle also banned guns and within one week were held up. Thankfully, no one was hurt, but had they allowed government screened legal citizens to carry their guns in the establishment, they would never have been robbed to begin with. In the legal gun carrying citizens mind, the NO GUNS ALLOWED sign means that your establishment is ripe for crime to happen because in the criminals' minds, a NO GUNS ALLOWED sign means that no one will stop him from robbing your establishment and even shooting your employees and customers. In comparison, NO GUNS ALLOWED has caused mass murders on our school campuses around the country, which incidentally is why teachers and other school employees are allowed to carry on campus with a legal concealed license!

    I have to apologize, but I and my family and friends, and all legally concealed license carriers will be avoiding your establishment. I'm sure you'll change your mind when a lawless criminal sees your NO GUNS ALLOWED sign, and robs your establishment freely, knowing no one can nor will stop him! Only after that occurs AND when you remove your NO GUNS ALLOWED signs, will we good citizens be back.

    Good luck to you!

    Signed, ..............




    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    Dear ,

    Thank you for taking the time to share your ideas about our decision to prohibit firearms in our stores. Please understand that we recognize and respect our customersí rights under the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, a right that prohibits the government (but not private retailers) from infringing on citizensí right to bear arms.

    That right, however, must be balanced with our need as a retailer to address concerns of a majority of our customers and team members. That's why, after careful and thoughtful analysis, we have decided to prohibit our customers and our team members from bringing firearms onto our store premises.

    While this decision may disappoint some of our valued customers, such as yourself, we stand by our decision and have received overwhelmingly positive feedback from our communities about it.

    Sincerely,

    Danne
    Customer Relations | Sprouts Farmers Market

  13. #13
    State Researcher lockman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Elgin, Illinois, USA
    Posts
    1,202
    Quote Originally Posted by BikerGuy57 View Post
    Dear Danne, Chipotle also banned guns and within one week were held up. Thankfully, no one was hurt, but had they allowed government screened legal citizens to carry their guns in the establishment, they would never have been robbed to begin with. In the legal gun carrying citizens mind, the NO GUNS ALLOWED sign means that your establishment is ripe for crime to happen because in the criminals' minds, a NO GUNS ALLOWED sign means that no one will stop him from robbing your establishment and even shooting your employees and customers. In comparison, NO GUNS ALLOWED has caused mass murders on our school campuses around the country, which incidentally is why teachers and other school employees are allowed to carry on campus with a legal concealed license!

    I have to apologize, but I and my family and friends, and all legally concealed license carriers will be avoiding your establishment. I'm sure you'll change your mind when a lawless criminal sees your NO GUNS ALLOWED sign, and robs your establishment freely, knowing no one can nor will stop him! Only after that occurs AND when you remove your NO GUNS ALLOWED signs, will we good citizens be back.

    Good luck to you!

    Signed, ..............

    I believe you should confine the response to your personal situation. I personally tend to disregard letters by individuals that claim to speak for an entire community of people. Also stating that a store would not be robbed also reduces credibility. If speculating make sure you covey this as your opinion.

  14. #14
    Regular Member twoskinsonemanns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    WV
    Posts
    2,489
    Quote Originally Posted by BikerGuy57 View Post
    Dear Danne, Chipotle also banned guns and within one week were held up. Thankfully, no one was hurt, but had they allowed government screened legal citizens to carry their guns in the establishment, they would never have been robbed to begin with. In the legal gun carrying citizens mind, the NO GUNS ALLOWED sign means that your establishment is ripe for crime to happen because in the criminals' minds, a NO GUNS ALLOWED sign means that no one will stop him from robbing your establishment and even shooting your employees and customers. In comparison, NO GUNS ALLOWED has caused mass murders on our school campuses around the country, which incidentally is why teachers and other school employees are allowed to carry on campus with a legal concealed license!

    I have to apologize, but I and my family and friends, and all legally concealed license carriers will be avoiding your establishment. I'm sure you'll change your mind when a lawless criminal sees your NO GUNS ALLOWED sign, and robs your establishment freely, knowing no one can nor will stop him! Only after that occurs AND when you remove your NO GUNS ALLOWED signs, will we good citizens be back.

    Good luck to you!

    Signed, ..............
    Nice job. Whatever they do they should know they are losing some business because of their policy. I can't speak for anyone else but I know for certain I was planning on making a purchase there and did not because of the sign.
    "I support the ban on assault weapons" - Donald Trump

    We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission - Ayn Rand

  15. #15
    Regular Member rightwinglibertarian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    Seattle WA
    Posts
    881
    Quote Originally Posted by BikerGuy57 View Post
    Dear Danne, Chipotle also banned guns and within one week were held up. Thankfully, no one was hurt, but had they allowed government screened legal citizens to carry their guns in the establishment, they would never have been robbed to begin with. In the legal gun carrying citizens mind, the NO GUNS ALLOWED sign means that your establishment is ripe for crime to happen because in the criminals' minds, a NO GUNS ALLOWED sign means that no one will stop him from robbing your establishment and even shooting your employees and customers. In comparison, NO GUNS ALLOWED has caused mass murders on our school campuses around the country, which incidentally is why teachers and other school employees are allowed to carry on campus with a legal concealed license!

    I have to apologize, but I and my family and friends, and all legally concealed license carriers will be avoiding your establishment. I'm sure you'll change your mind when a lawless criminal sees your NO GUNS ALLOWED sign, and robs your establishment freely, knowing no one can nor will stop him! Only after that occurs AND when you remove your NO GUNS ALLOWED signs, will we good citizens be back.

    Good luck to you!

    Signed, ..............
    Very good apart from the permit references. This I think would enforce the idea it's ok to require them when in fact they aren't even legal. Remember regardless of the bureaucrats and traitors to the Constitution all 50 states are constitutional carry whether they like it or not. It's just a shame not enough people have the guts to admit that which severely harms our cause.
    "Which part of shall not be infringed is so difficult to understand"?

    "Any and all restrictions on the bearing of arms in public places are nullified as per the Second Amendment"

    Conservative Broadcast || Google Plus profile

  16. #16
    Regular Member F350's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    The High Plains of Wyoming
    Posts
    1,030
    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    Dear ,

    Thank you for taking the time to share your ideas about our decision to prohibit firearms in our stores. Please understand that we recognize and respect our customersí rights under the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, a right that prohibits the government (but not private retailers) from infringing on citizensí right to bear arms.

    That right, however, must be balanced with our need as a retailer to address concerns of a majority of our customers and team members. That's why, after careful and thoughtful analysis, we have decided to prohibit our customers and our team members from bringing firearms onto our store premises.

    While this decision may disappoint some of our valued customers, such as yourself, we stand by our decision and have received overwhelmingly positive feedback from our communities about it.

    Sincerely,

    Danne
    Customer Relations | Sprouts Farmers Market
    It's an "ORGANIC" store; what did you expect??

  17. #17
    Regular Member twoskinsonemanns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    WV
    Posts
    2,489
    Quote Originally Posted by F350 View Post
    It's an "ORGANIC" store; what did you expect??
    To be honest I was very surprised at the sign. In my area of WV The only gun signs I've ever noticed were at the mall or government buildings.
    Not too surprised at the reply though that's true.
    "I support the ban on assault weapons" - Donald Trump

    We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission - Ayn Rand

  18. #18
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Haskell, Oklahoma, United States
    Posts
    34
    There is nothing in the Constitution that gives them the right to infringe my rights. I have the same rights they do. The 2A applies to every person in the country. Let them try to post a sign that says "No Homosexuals Allowed" and see how far that goes.

    Needless to say, I carried my gun in there just the day, I looked the sign, I deciced my rights are more important than there stupid sign.

    The only places I don't carry are the prohibited by law.

    Screw the sign.
    Last edited by Amigatec; 09-20-2014 at 06:58 AM.

  19. #19
    Regular Member twoskinsonemanns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    WV
    Posts
    2,489
    Quote Originally Posted by Amigatec View Post
    There is nothing in the Constitution that gives them the right to infringe my rights. I have the same rights they do. The 2A applies to every person in the country. Let them try to post a sign that says "No Homosexuals Allowed" and see how far that goes.

    Needless to say, I carried my gun in there just the day, I looked the sign, I deciced my rights are more important than there stupid sign.

    The only places I don't carry are the prohibited by law.

    Screw the sign.
    For me it's about not giving them my business.
    "I support the ban on assault weapons" - Donald Trump

    We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission - Ayn Rand

  20. #20
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Tempe, Arizona
    Posts
    189
    Sprouts signs are very obscure in AZ also. Has anyone open-carried and seen what happens?

  21. #21
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Haskell, Oklahoma, United States
    Posts
    34
    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    For me it's about not giving them my business.
    I find boycotts don't work, I'm only hurting myself. For every one that boycotts, there are 10 more that won't. MDA have tried that, it's not working for them either.

    They can't be very serious about it, because the signs are hard to read.

  22. #22
    Regular Member twoskinsonemanns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    WV
    Posts
    2,489
    Quote Originally Posted by Amigatec View Post
    I find boycotts don't work, I'm only hurting myself. For every one that boycotts, there are 10 more that won't. MDA have tried that, it's not working for them either.

    They can't be very serious about it, because the signs are hard to read.
    It's impossible for my boycott not to work. They are not receiving the profit they would have gotten from my purchase so it works. It certainly doesn't hurt me because there are 10 other companies that do not discriminate against armed citizens willing to sell me what I want.
    "I support the ban on assault weapons" - Donald Trump

    We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission - Ayn Rand

  23. #23
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Granite State of Mind
    Posts
    4,510
    Quote Originally Posted by Amigatec View Post
    There is nothing in the Constitution that gives them the right to infringe my rights. I have the same rights they do.
    Yes you do, including the right to tell people they're not welcome on your property except under your terms.

    It doesn't violate your rights when a property owner sets rules.


    Let them try to post a sign that says "No Homosexuals Allowed" and see how far that goes.
    The laws that prohibit discriminating against or refusing service to protected minority groups are anti-freedom.


    Needless to say, I carried my gun in there just the day, I looked the sign, I deciced my rights are more important than there stupid sign.
    No, you decided that your convenience was more important than their property rights. And, you gave anti-gunners your money.

  24. #24
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Haskell, Oklahoma, United States
    Posts
    34
    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    Yes you do, including the right to tell people they're not welcome on your property except under your terms.

    It doesn't violate your rights when a property owner sets rules.
    The 2ad says "Shall not be infringed", nothing says except when somebody posts a sign. This is a GOD GIVEN right.

    The laws that prohibit discriminating against or refusing service to protected minority groups are anti-freedom.



    No, you decided that your convenience was more important than their property rights. And, you gave anti-gunners your money.
    No I decided my 2AD rights shall NOT BE infringed. PERIOD!!!!!

    What are they going to do call the cops??
    Police: what's the problem?
    SProust: We have a man with a gun.
    Police: What's he doing?
    Sprouts: Trying to buy some lettuce and onions.
    Police: Does he have anything in his hand?
    Sprouts: Yes he does.
    Police: What does he have?
    Sprouts: His Credit Card.

    Police: Click and hangs up the phone.



    Do you really think they are going to call the cops and have you escorted off the property?
    Last edited by Amigatec; 09-20-2014 at 09:00 PM.

  25. #25
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Haskell, Oklahoma, United States
    Posts
    34
    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    It's impossible for my boycott not to work. They are not receiving the profit they would have gotten from my purchase so it works. It certainly doesn't hurt me because there are 10 other companies that do not discriminate against armed citizens willing to sell me what I want.
    Do you really think the money you didn't spend in there is going to hurt them?

    They aren't very serious about keeping the guns out, you have to really look to find the sign, they have posted no metal detectors at the doors, and have no cops running around the place. Because if they disarm me, are they going to disarm everybody that walks in the door?

    These signs have the same force of law as a "No shirt, no shoes, no service" sign.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •