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    Free Scotland's interim Constitution

    http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/0045/00452762.pdf 3.8 MB 74 pages

    Some discussion and links

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/v...dent-scotland/

    The only mention on a brief perusal of arms, firearms or guns is in the rejection of nuclear weapons.
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    European Convention on Human Rights

    No 2A analog...it's a British thing.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Just now I heard that sixteen year olds will vote tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Just now I heard that sixteen year olds will vote tomorrow.
    Oh! the humanity!!
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Oh! the humanity!!
    Oh! The insanity.

    It's a fine illustration of the Sorite's paradox of the heap. We may agree that a fifty year old is a sovereign enfranchised person, at the top of this 'heap'. Is a 49 y.o.? Is a 40 y.o.? Is a 25 y.o.? Is a 21 y.o.? Is a 16 y.o.?
    Is a 10 y.o.? Is an infant a sovereign enfranchised person?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Oh! The insanity.

    It's a fine illustration of the Sorite's paradox of the heap. We may agree that a fifty year old is a sovereign enfranchised person, at the top of this 'heap'. Is a 49 y.o.? Is a 40 y.o.? Is a 25 y.o.? Is a 21 y.o.? Is a 16 y.o.?
    Is a 10 y.o.? Is an infant a sovereign enfranchised person?
    I can certainly count on you to grasp my inane references.

    As far as that sovereign thing...as long as they vote the right way, sure, I got no problem with them voting.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    I skimmed through it and it looked a lot more like this document involves being interdependent with the EU than being independent as a free country. Looks more like a liberal/left movement to side with the EU over Britain's staunch independence from the EU.

    Example:

    24 Incorporation of European law
    (1) Directly effective EU law forms part of Scots law.
    (2) Scots law is of no effect so far as it is inconsistent with EU law.
    (3) In this section—
    (a) “EU law” means—
    (i) all those rights, powers, liabilities, obligations and restrictions from time to
    time created or arising by or under the EU Treaties, and
    (ii) all those remedies and procedures from time to time provided for by or
    under those Treaties,
    (b) EU law is directly effective if, in accordance with the EU Treaties, it is to be
    given legal effect or used in Scotland without further enactment.
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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    This is called the Interim Constitution.
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    in·ter·im - noun \ˈin-tə-rəm\: a period of time between events
    300 years?
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Tsk. Sometimes I wonder. No, between independence (and discovering just what it means) and crafting a constitution suited to the peoples needs. Remember that 16 y.o. are enfranchised so their needs will have to be satisfied.
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    Scotland was like a whole other country until about 17naugtsomethingortheother.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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