'Badass' Moms Take Gun Fight To NRA's Home Turf

Renegadez said:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoc...eo-dont-bring-your-guns-into-our-restaurants/

Again Bad@ss Mommy's pressures them
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/08/panera-guns-bread-firearms_n_5784464.html

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The Forbes quote links back to the same story that I linked where they said that they wouldn't be asking their people to confront armed guests. It doesn't say that they will have their employees asking armed people to leave and just seems to cherry pick from the quotes in the cnbc article.

The Huffpo article does the exact same thing. Links to the cnbc article and then only uses a part of the quote from the Panera Bread release. Nothing says that they will have their employees ask armed individuals to leave.

@Redbaron007 - I believe you in that the person you talked to said that they would ask people leave. But so far that goes against what corporate has put out and those two articles the previous person linked do nothing to counter my post (in fact they both link back to it and just leave out the rest of the quote). As I said, when this first came out I remember several articles with the full quote stating that they wouldn't ask people to leave.

Aknazer I vote you give it a whirl let us know how it goes at minium the CEO has stated to he does not want any firearms in his stores that is good enuff for me I need no other reason to never set foot in a panera again. So whether or not employees are to do the job of asking armed customers to leave does not matter to me. I thought you were asking to see a link were the ceo said hence the links i posted if thats not what you were asking i misunderstood no problem.

Aknazer said:

The Forbes quote links back to the same story that I linked where they said that they wouldn't be asking their people to confront armed guests. It doesn't say that they will have their employees asking armed people to leave and just seems to cherry pick from the quotes in the cnbc article.

The Huffpo article does the exact same thing. Links to the cnbc article and then only uses a part of the quote from the Panera Bread release. Nothing says that they will have their employees ask armed individuals to leave.

@Redbaron007 - I believe you in that the person you talked to said that they would ask people leave. But so far that goes against what corporate has put out and those two articles the previous person linked do nothing to counter my post (in fact they both link back to it and just leave out the rest of the quote). As I said, when this first came out I remember several articles with the full quote stating that they wouldn't ask people to leave.

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I understand you statement/concern and don't disagree. Like I said before, the CNBC article is the first time I had seen the CEO's comments stating they would refrain from confronting anyone toting. My conversations with local leadership were after this article. The stores in my area are franchise stores, not company stores. They may have taken the comments more literally; not sure what written direction they received or flexibility they have. My experience is strictly anecdotal, other than the email I sent, with the standard generic reply.

I guess the burr in my saddle with them is they fell to the Mom Demanding Action fear-mongering with no prior incidents. I have done a lot of business (personally and professionally) with them over the years, while OCing, for them to succumb to the demands of a liberal group that does nothing for the USA, other than create an environment of socialism. But I'm beginning to not be surprised; rumors are interesting.

Shaich's competition is Starbucks.....I guess he felt he had to follow their lead to stay/have favor with that crowd.

I don't do GMO foods. I know my local farmers for meat products and non-meat products have many alternative options available in my area.

Why take the chance if there is a comparably priced good quality alternative available. Support your local farmer.

Renegadez said:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoc...eo-dont-bring-your-guns-into-our-restaurants/

Again Bad@ss Mommy's pressures them
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/08/panera-guns-bread-firearms_n_5784464.html

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To this end, we ask that guns not be brought into this environment unless carried by an authorized law enforcement officer.

Would this include both public and Private Attorney Generals?

Further proof that the only thing Panera ever got right was a Greek salad. Haven't been in about 4 years.

davidmcbeth said:

To this end, we ask that guns not be brought into this environment unless carried by an authorized law enforcement officer.

Would this include both public and Private Attorney Generals?

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Does not really matter to me I am niether.

OC for ME said:

I don't do GMO foods. I know my local farmers for meat products and non-meat products have many alternative options available in my area.

Why take the chance if there is a comparably priced good quality alternative available. Support your local farmer.

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+1 to you OC I agree 100% why take a chance!

I had an interesting conversation last night with a couple of folks who believe Watts won't be around with MDA for the long term......This group is her stepping stone into other arenas...meaning the group also has a short term impact, 2-5 yrs.....Their opinion was when she leaves, MDA will falter to the Brady Bunch status or lower and will not be taken seriously.

I wasn't aware of this, but those talking last night stated Bloomberg has a history of setting up organizations, funding them short-term, then after they have had a run, letting them slide back into the abyss. Anyone familiar?

I am not sure who in their right mind would flippy floppy Bloomer to began with snake in the grass that he is. From what I have seen most of what he throws money at ends up being just another tax write off for it would not surprise if he is just using the mommy's to to push his own agenda and when it falters they are toast. In the short run though they are doing some damage to 2A.

Initially they had some clout, and still do with some of the more liberal/touchy/feely CEOs (Starbucks, Panera, Target etc); however, with Kroger standing up to them, even after all the emotional pleas/threats, Kroger seems to standing pretty firm and the public has been accommodating. My guess they will throw out the guys carrying AR/AKs into a daycare and try to stir up more emotional fears of guns in the near future; unless we have another tragic shooting. I hope their slide to the Brady Bunch status has begun.

Redbaron007 said:

I had an interesting conversation last night with a couple of folks who believe Watts won't be around with MDA for the long term......This group is her stepping stone into other arenas...meaning the group also has a short term impact, 2-5 yrs.....Their opinion was when she leaves, MDA will falter to the Brady Bunch status or lower and will not be taken seriously.

I wasn't aware of this, but those talking last night stated Bloomberg has a history of setting up organizations, funding them short-term, then after they have had a run, letting them slide back into the abyss. Anyone familiar?

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Anecdotally that seems to be the case but I have never researched the matter to confirm. It is not uncommon for these single issue hyperventilaters to get their 15 minutes and then try to use it as a stepping stone to political office. Watts seems better at the game than most, but other ambitions and ego I expect will eventually overwhelm her current agenda and it is doubtful that MDA will attract a successor who is as effective. And even Jesse Jackson had to take a break from his corporate shakedown schemes. Both the public and the corporate boards eventually tire of the hyperbole.

Renegadez said:

+1 to you OC I agree 100% why take a chance!

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I will not speak for any other state, or other counties in MO, but the Lincoln and St Charles County fairs have beef cows that can be bought after they are shown. You just gotta be quick cuz those beef cows go fast. My last buy was 311 lbs on the bone @$2.60/lb. The hamburger is ~90% lean, with 80% lean burger going for over 3 bucks a pound at Schnucks. Ya gotta wait a bit to get your beef, but I know it is free of all that factory farm crap they pump into cattle these days. Hogs and lamb too. Better and lower cost. The only issue is me having to have two freezers cuz I have a bunch of venison that has to be stored as well.

Anyway, that Watts character is nothing but a PR wonk, riding the Doomberg gravy train only as long as she can sit in first class. Once she gets bumped to the baggage car she'll jump off the train.

Renegadez said:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/23/shannon-watts-moms-demand-action_n_5863346.html


This article talks about some of the heat our legislators took for our over ride veto

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I've seen a few pictures.... Are you sure you didn't mean "Bigass mons"???