Marco
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The article is, but Tom and Alan's comments clearly state their views.The article is about permission slips, not constitutional carry.
The article is, but Tom and Alan's comments clearly state their views.The article is about permission slips, not constitutional carry.
Great points.The LGTB community got in people's face for years with their sexuality, even though they knew it offended people. Same for the civil rights movement. We will never get our RTKBA back by kissing arse, NEVER. In fact if we do not get it firmly implanted in case law, not legislative law, we will lose it forever the same as most of the world.
Some people think making rights popular by compromise will win the day. It never has worked! In most of the countries where guns are outlawed, gun control is popular. As soon as it is popular, and SCOTUS shifts direction guns owned by the public will be gone forever.
And we all can thank those popularity soldiers, more so than the antis.
Post Sandy Hook, Tom told his listeners to join groups like NRA, etc. Almost to the point of "shaming" those who didn't, that they weren't doing enough if they didn't.
2nd Amendment and the 14th Amendment to reinforce it is ALL WE NEED!
No one needs to be propped up against Dudley brown, brown is a damned foolGil: Tom has Gottlieb on his show on a VERY regular basis. He was propping him up a couple months ago from criticism by Dudley Brown and leveling the same charges against Brown (in it for the $$$$$$) that have been said about gottlieb.
I am not comfortable with a National voice (Gresham) consistently talking of "National Reciprocity" in admiration and supporting callers when they say the same thing.
WE ALREADY HAVE NATIONAL RECIPROCITY.
"IT'S THE SECOND AMENDMENT, STUPID"
I have been wanting to call him about my concerns on this during his show. I was going to Sunday, but for 3 hours he took no calls as he talked to guest after guest at the "Gun Rights Policy Conference" regarding working WITHIN the system. It started ringing true as I listened to all of them that if we had ABSOLUTE Constitutional gun Rights they would be out of work and more importantly for them $$$$$$$$$$$$.
The NRA is the worst offender, how many tens or hundreds of millions have they taken in in the last couple years and WHERE are THEY getting these "laws" overturned?
"Reality", Gil? Reality is OC or CC based on the 2nd Amendment and NOT some permission slip handed out by Government.
No one needs to be propped up against Dudley brown, brown is a damned fool
"Shall NOT be infringed" TOM, That is all we need and should DEMAND!
Well that's not the world we live in so ignoring them won't make them go away. Do you ignore NFA rules and make your own full auto, suppressors, and SBEs? Do you carry into a Federal building and tell them that they can't stop you?
Wishing won't make it so.
What have you done about it other than bitch about it on the Internet?
Well that's not the world we live in so ignoring them won't make them go away. Do you ignore NFA rules and make your own full auto, suppressors, and SBEs? Do you carry into a Federal building and tell them that they can't stop you?
Wishing won't make it so.
What have you done about it other than bitch about it on the Internet?
And it's only getting worse.................... Al
Go ahead and keep waiting for "the system" to work in your favor. Let me know how it turns out for your descendants years from now.
Just happened. Halfway through the second hour.
Tom cuts off a caller and comes to defense of money master Gottlieb (look up Merril mail marketing to see what I mean), and the completely ineffectual NRA who has virtually put nothing into defeating 594.
Tom tries to stick it to the caller by saying "what have you done". He's calling your stinking show Tom to get his voice heard and YOU cut him and what he had to say off!
I didn't listen to the show, nor do I care much, but do you really think public opinion matters NOTHING?Well Tom, you just couldn't help yourself ONCE AGAIN.
You had to start demonizing "some" open carriers and their methods or appearance. And that "public opinion" will ban OC, where those YOU demonize, exercise their RIGHTS.
Tom how about YOU start putting as much "concern" into THE SECOND AMENDMENT as YOU do with "PUBLIC OPINION"???????????
Get a SPINE Tom! Public Opinion MATTERS NOTHING in regards to INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!
If you continue to FAIL at recognizing "the Right to keep and bear arms, shall NOT be infringed", do US ALL a favor and quit talking about it!
Seriously YOUR lack of reverence for our ABSOLUTE Right under the 2nd is appalling.
ETA: Tom, When will YOU sir, stand up for our ABSOLUTE Right to keep and bear arms? Whether it is CA., NY., MA., NJ., TEXAS!!!!, etc?????????
I didn't listen to the show, nor do I care much, but do you really think public opinion matters NOTHING?
SHOULD it? No way. But PUBLIC are the ones that have voted our rights away one bit at a time. I would think an informed open carrier will carefully consider how he acts in public and if he will further gun rights or inhibit them.
Could go both ways, I understand that. Sometimes a little shock is ok. But I think it actually sets RKBA back a LONG ways to say public opinion doesn't matter. Public opinion is the entire reason our rights have been infringed on. I sure hope we care to turn public opinion on our side. The gay rights movement has done a textbook job of this. I think as gun owners, we can too.