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    Help Me Identify this gun!!

    I am trying to get a new handgun for deer hunting. I have been mulling it over for the last few years. I was searching again today and ran acoss this picture. I am hoping someone can help identify who makes it ans possibly where to get one.

    I am really wanting one in something in bolt action possibly 30/06 however not sure how much of a handcannon it will be. Mabe some can provide some input.

    I have checked online but, found like the I found like the remington XP-100 but didnt like the layout of it.

    Mabe some can help Identity the one in picture or point me right direction!

    Thanks in advance
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    I found this picture! Not sure of the barrel length on this the handgrip if alot more flashy than I need.
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    Don't recognize it. Sorry.

    In the early 1990s, I hunted with a Ruger Super Redhawk .44 magnum outfitted with a scope and firing Black Talon ammo.

    At the time, only two loads met Washington State's minimum handgun requirement of 500 ft-lbs of energy at 100 yds. Those loads were Federal Jacketed hollow point and Black Talon. Controlled testing on a rest at the firing range revealed 20 rounds of the Federal Jacketed hallow point rounds had an average miss radius of 13.7 inches at 100 yards, which just wouldn't cut it for hunting. The Black Talon rounds, however, sported a 2.3" average miss radius at 100 yards. That was definitely a win.

    I found a cross-chest carry rig which accommodated the scope and fit nicely beneath my heavy winter jacket. Perfect for mucking through scrub brush or scrambling up and down slopes.

    I wouldn't necessarily call it a "hand cannon," but it certainly has a kick, and a round impacting anywhere in the thoracic region had no problem dropping a buck where he stood.
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    I believe it may possibly be a highly modified a Remington XP-100. They have been out of production for quite some time, however they can still be found for sale on the Gunbroker site. Also another possibility is the Savage Stryker. I am not sure if it is still in production. But if my memory serves me it was produced in primarily a left hand bolt configuration. Both of these handguns were very popular in the silhouette shooting competitions. There were also some custom made guns being made in this configuration, from the actions of popular bolt action rifles. Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    Don't recognize it. Sorry.

    In the early 1990s, I hunted with a Ruger Super Redhawk .44 magnum outfitted with a scope and firing Black Talon ammo.

    At the time, only two loads met Washington State's minimum handgun requirement of 500 ft-lbs of energy at 100 yds. Those loads were Federal Jacketed hollow point and Black Talon. .
    How would they ever test for it if you were using hand loads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    How would they ever test for it if you were using hand loads.
    Why would they have to test for it? Compliance with the law is the citizenry's responsibility, prosecution for non-compliance (should it ever come up) is the state's. It's just like NJ's prohibition on hollow pointed bullets, they don't have to check every bullet someone has, just the ones that come to their attention.

    The pistol pictured could be from just about anywhere, all one needs is to purchase a barreled action that had never before been assembled into a rifle and it could legally be constructed as a pistol. Come to think of it, it would not necessarily need even have a barrel at time of purchase, just never have been assembled as a rifle.

    Regarding the XP-100 specifically, you'll never find one in .30-06 as the XP was only offered in a 'short action' receiver (.308 max).
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    Considering the accuracy of the AR platform, a lower with a 308 upper would be a great hunting pistol. Myself I prefer a rifle for hunting, handgun is for back up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallschirmjäger View Post
    Why would they have to test for it? Compliance with the law is the citizenry's responsibility, prosecution for non-compliance (should it ever come up) is the state's. It's just like NJ's prohibition on hollow pointed bullets, they don't have to check every bullet someone has, just the ones that come to their attention.

    The pistol pictured could be from just about anywhere, all one needs is to purchase a barreled action that had never before been assembled into a rifle and it could legally be constructed as a pistol. Come to think of it, it would not necessarily need even have a barrel at time of purchase, just never have been assembled as a rifle.

    Regarding the XP-100 specifically, you'll never find one in .30-06 as the XP was only offered in a 'short action' receiver (.308 max).
    You are absolutely correct about the XP100 being a short action. And most of them were chambered in .221 Fireball. Not sure what Savage chambered their version in. Also, I seriously doubt that anybody would last very long at the range shooting 30.06 cartridges from a handgun platform.
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    As I am working out of the country I am going to miss rifle season this year. Im trying to get a gun thats technically within Missouri's alternative methods seson requirements; It was formally the muzzelloader season. However they expaned the allowable options a person can hunt with.

    Now handguns is legal durign that timeframe. I dont see a regulation on bullet size. I have an AR-10 (7.62mm). I suppose I could buy a lower receiver registered under a pistol.

    According to the hunting pamphlet

    Centerfire pistols or revolvers using expanding-type bullets
    such as lead or copper

    That leaves alot of options from that statement.

    I have an AR-10 (7.62mm). I suppose I could buy a lower receiver registered under a pistol. However im not sure how the barrel length affects legality of pistol. Anyone know?

    I do prefeer to get gun in a caliber that I already have. I have a wildcat 30/338 Win Mag which is not viable option for a pistol. 30/06 possibly an option, 7.62mm/308 Definitly possible from what you are saying, and .223. Not sure I want to deer hunt with a .223. 30/06 was a good option. Its been a few years but I was a the range probly 10 yrs ago and a guy had a 30/06 cutdown of some sort. and its something like that was really hoping for!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Considering the accuracy of the AR platform, a lower with a 308 upper would be a great hunting pistol. Myself I prefer a rifle for hunting, handgun is for back up.
    I prefer hunting with a rifle too however not legal during alternative methods season! Hence the reason I am looking at other avenues!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mechanicworkman View Post
    I prefer hunting with a rifle too however not legal during alternative methods season! Hence the reason I am looking at other avenues!
    Claymores work well.

    So do booby traps. If you need a lesson watch Predator.
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    LMAO.......claymores are destructive devices.....unfortunately can't hunt with those in this season either.......then again I'm not sure there is a hunting season you can....lol


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    Savage striker more be more up my alley. I didnt like the handgrip in middle of the pistol like the XP-100. This oone dosnt look to bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Claymores work well.

    So do booby traps. If you need a lesson watch Predator.
    I hunt the animal with the best tasting meat...the cow. Crafty creatures..if skilled enough though (after years of training to be almost ninja-like) one can creep up on them to near point blank range. And then kill them with a medium sized gun or a sledgehammer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    I hunt the animal with the best tasting meat...the cow. Crafty creatures..if skilled enough though (after years of training to be almost ninja-like) one can creep up on them to near point blank range. And then kill them with a medium sized gun or a sledgehammer.
    Cite? My cows will certainly be onto your sledge hammer tactics.

    Wait... Are we talking women or domesticated animals?
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    Well I appreciate everyone's help your info has helped in the search. Your info combined with google search tool has led me to

    http://specialtypistols.infopop.cc/e...m/f/3826077864

    There is a ton of stuff on here about builds for pistols.

    Thanks everyone!
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