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    Want your 2nd amendment privilege? We need to see any social media accounts please.

    “If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? ” -Bastiat

    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Facebook User Name and Password Required on Permit Apllication

    http://gunssavelives.net/blog/its-be...istol-permits/

    Today, social media is a vital investigative tool and we make a use of it in these background investigations in order to render a well-founded and complete recommendation on applicants to the courts.
    – Watervliet Police Chief Ronald A. Boisvert, Jr.

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    Give them a password... when it doesn't work, tell them you just went and changed it since it was no longer secure, but it was the password when you filled out the form :-P

    Really though, I don't see how this is legal... oh, its New York, the government there doesn't let laws or rights get in their way.

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    LOL Or, oh, it's deFacedbook, they don't let security get in their way.
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    Hehe, this wouldn't work in my case. I have the login verification turned on. They would need my phone at the same time they tried to log in (which I certainly won't give to them).
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    Ask your kids how they create multiple Facebook accounts - one for the parents and one for their buddies.
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    None of the eight (8) applicants who supplied Facebook information have had their accounts accessed, which I know because I am the investigating officer and the only person conducting background checks.
    I approach this duty with the greatest respect for gun owners and their rights, a perspective that is shaped by my 9-year service in the U.S. Navy and exposure to guns at a young age through my grandfather, a well-respected gunsmith. I do not take guns, gun safety or our freedoms as Americans lightly, and as Chief of Police I have a serious job to do, and I approach it with respect.’
    – Watervliet Police Chief Ronald A. Boisvert, Jr.
    The FaceBook information is so vital to the investigation of the applicant's suitability to receive a pewrmit that they have not even bothered to look at the FaceBook account of the folks who caved in and gave up that information.

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    Oh...I'd give them a password alright ..... guess what it would read?

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    Cops Need to Obey Facebook’s Rules

    Facebook scolded the Drug Enforcement Administration this week after learning that a narcotics agent had impersonated a user named Sondra Arquiett on the social network in order to communicate and gather intelligence on suspects. In a strongly worded letter to DEA head Michele Leonhart, Facebook’s Chief Security Officer Joe Sullivan reiterated that not only did the practice explicitly violate the site’s terms of service, but threatened Facebook’s trust-based social ecosystem.

    Sullivan writes:

    Facebook has long made clear that law enforcement authorities are subject to these policies. We regard the conduct to be a knowing and serious breach of Facebook’s terms and policies, and the account created by the agent in the Arquiett matter has been disabled.

    Accordingly, Facebook asks that the DEA immediately confirm that it has ceased all activities on Facebook that involve the impersonation of others or that otherwise violate our terms and policies.

    So far, it is unclear whether the DEA has responded, although the US Department of Justice has independently launched an investigation into the practice. We commend Facebook for holding the agency accountable.

    But we also think Facebook should go further in protecting users and the integrity of its services. The DEA isn’t only law enforcement agency creating fake profiles on Facebook, and fake profiles are not the only way that law enforcement agencies routinely violate the site’s terms of service.

    Sock Puppet Investigators

    Facebook’s “Statement of Rights and Responsibilities” require users to provide their “real names and information” and warn users to “not provide any false personal information on Facebook, or create an account for anyone other than yourself without permission.” In other words, this is a ban on sock puppets: fake accounts that someone creates for deceptive purposes.
    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/1...acebooks-rules
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    How can it be required? Not everyone even has a computer, let alone a facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Oh...I'd give them a password alright ..... guess what it would read?
    Probably something along the lines of **** *** *************
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    So in actuality you have no evidence that anything wrong took place, you only believe that it could be spun to appear wrong. But it hasn't been. The truth has a funny way of coming out with persistence, even if it was spun negatively the truth would find its way because these people will not accept less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPmatt View Post
    Ask your kids how they create multiple Facebook accounts - one for the parents and one for their buddies.
    THIS FOR THE WIN!!!!!!!

    Heck; I lie on so many government accessible forms I have trouble keeping track of who I really am. Had to see a new doctor (specialist) last week and filled out the now (or soon to be) Obama accessible forms. I was a Pacific Islander between 25 and 35 years old who has never smoked or drank who's social security number was NOYFB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth
    Oh... I'd give them a password all right ... guess what it would read?
    Some variation of c0p$Su(k ?

    I saw one response from the police chief that basically said, "that shouldn't have been in the application packet; it's something we use in interviews".
    So now that the public knows about it, will they stop being nosy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    Some variation of c0p$Su(k ?

    I saw one response from the police chief that basically said, "that shouldn't have been in the application packet; it's something we use in interviews".
    So now that the public knows about it, will they stop being nosy?
    Wow... I am SOOOOO glad I got out of that worthless POS state...

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    Use this one

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    I see above I had a comment deleted...I do not believe I typed an F bomb. I have more respect than that. Are you sure?

    I guess maybe I could have...I sure don't remember it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator
    So in actuality you have no evidence that anything wrong took place, you only believe that it could be spun to appear wrong. But it hasn't been. The truth has a funny way of coming out with persistence, even if it was spun negatively the truth would find its way because these people will not accept less.
    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    The truth causes some people so much pain they can only respond with impotent laughable insults. Life must be rough for those people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken56 View Post
    #sand U.PurA.Z.


    Shouldn't have been in the packet... That's correct, it shouldn't have been...
    Advocate freedom please

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Truth View Post
    I see above I had a comment deleted...I do not believe I typed an F bomb. I have more respect than that. Are you sure?

    I guess maybe I could have...I sure don't remember it though.
    Well, I used an acronym which suggests it. It's also one which is obscure enough that kids wouldn't know what I meant, methinks.

    Oh well.

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    Well, copper, I don't do Facebook, Tweeter, MySpace et al... I have a land line and a cellphone that I use to make voice calls...you do remember what a voice call, do you not? I don't do text/SMS messaging either. Have not activated my voice mail either or have a answering machine. Oh, and, how about supporting the USPS while you're at it and mail me the permit you commie pinko!
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