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    Employee shot, "Please leave your guns at home" didn't help


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    Suspect found dead after allegedly shooting Jack in the Box employee

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    They probably needed to make a bigger sign.

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    "Good for the shooter, not for the shootee ... hahahahaha!" Jabba

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    People keep trying to find anything other than the utterly defenseless position of the employees to focus on:
    [QUOTE= The Fox article]Carroll Love, who came in for her usual breakfast, saw the chaos when she drove by around 5 a.m. Wednesday.

    "It's scary, and I feel sorry for the people who have to work here late at night," she said.

    The shooting has some customers on edge wondering if fast food places like this one should consider changing their hours.

    "It is an unprotected situation you know, maybe we should go back to the old ways and close at ten," said Love.

    "It really doesn't matter what location you are at, if they're gonna hit you, they're gonna hit you," said another patron./[QUOTE]


    Maybe we should go back to the "old ways" and have people take responsibility for their OWN protection, have mandatory sentences for violent criminals, allow for openly-carried Personal Protection Pistols.

    As to the second patron, I imagine he/she would be okay with not prosecuting violent criminals, seeing as "if they're gonna hit you, they're gonna hit you", right?


    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    "'Gun-Free' Zones! Good for the shooter, not for the shootee ... hahahahaha!" Jabba
    Fixed it for you.
    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

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    Right down the street

    My wife and I are about a mile from where this took place, crazy to think about as last I have heard no motive has been determined? Glad thing I don't go to Jack N the crack, I only go places were I can protect myself and my family.

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    After a brief standoff with police officer at a nearby home, the suspect who fired the shot killed himself.



    Why do these folks always kill themselves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    After a brief standoff with police officer at a nearby home, the suspect who fired the shot killed himself.



    Why do these folks always kill themselves?
    Why do these folk always kill themselves LAST?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick9 View Post
    Why do these folk always kill themselves LAST?
    Because they are cowards.
    "The wicked flee when no man persueth: but the righteous are as bold as a lion" Proverbs 28:1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Because they are cowards.
    Cowards would never shoot themselves so I don't think that's why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Cowards would never shoot themselves so I don't think that's why.
    Easier to off themselves than face the consequences of their actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Words like always and never pervert what might have been a valid contention.
    You are over thinking it...you always do that ()

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    Has Jack in the Box actually asked people to leave for carrying? Their "request" seems to be yet another "we're going to say please don't carry so we don't have to deal with these shril harpies any more but if you do, meh, would you like the sourdough burger special today?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by deepdiver View Post
    Has Jack in the Box actually asked people to leave for carrying? Their "request" seems to be yet another "we're going to say please don't carry so we don't have to deal with these shril harpies any more but if you do, meh, would you like the sourdough burger special today?"
    Not that I have heard of. Then again, JIB was never near the top of my go-to list of fast food places.

    The last time I entered a JIB was around New Year's Eve (2013); haven't needed to go back since, but I think it could be worthwhile for me to go in and buy a small soda (cheap, not easily "tampered" with) to gauge the level of (possibly non-existent) animosity towards OC. I could also just stroll in and ask to use their restroom (almost had to once, but held till I got to a gas station.

    I'll post my experience when I get around to it.
    I carry to defend my loved ones; Desensitizing and educating are secondary & tertiary reasons. Anything else is unintended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Young Man View Post
    Not that I have heard of. Then again, JIB was never near the top of my go-to list of fast food places.

    The last time I entered a JIB was around New Year's Eve (2013); haven't needed to go back since, but I think it could be worthwhile for me to go in and buy a small soda (cheap, not easily "tampered" with) to gauge the level of (possibly non-existent) animosity towards OC. I could also just stroll in and ask to use their restroom (almost had to once, but held till I got to a gas station.

    I'll post my experience when I get around to it.
    "Junk in the box" is also very low on my list of places to eat. lived near one for over two years now, went in once & that should last me at least another two years....
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    Quote Originally Posted by deepdiver View Post
    Has Jack in the Box actually asked people to leave for carrying? Their "request" seems to be yet another "we're going to say please don't carry so we don't have to deal with these shrill harpies any more but if you do, meh, would you like the sourdough burger special today?"
    Their request is also another name on an official list used to advertise that weapons are increasingly not "normal" in society. Such a request is inexcusable, and certainly a reason to consider if they deserve your business.
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