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    At what point do people have the right to defend themselves? VIDEO

    At what point do people have the right to defend themselves: Paul Begala misquotes Joni Ernst and bizarrely misinterprets the rest of her quote.
    Paul Begala: This notion -- that the Second Amendment gives citizens the right to fire upon federal officials, or their local police, or sheriffs or even U.S. military personnel -- is common among right wingers. But it's one thing to hear, say, goofball Ted Nugent honk off that way. (The Nuge, by the way, has boasted about how he avoided taking up arms in defense of his country during Vietnam.) It is another to know that someone with those loopy views is one step away from the United States Senate. http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/24/opinio...ark/index.html
    The Washington Monthly blogger Ed Kilgore has asked the right question -- the one any Iowa voter should be putting to Ms. Ernst: "Since you brought it up, exactly what circumstances would justify you shooting a police officer or a soldier in the head?" http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/
    Presumably, Begala would be upset if Americans tried to fight back against a foreign or domestic totalitarian government that would tried to take away all their rights. But others would think that it is reasonable. Begala asks bizarre questions of whether it is OK for us to shot federal officials if they take away segregation. Seriously? Is this what Begala thinks anyone would define as all their rights?

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    That has been the question for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    That has been the question for a long time.
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    Its not relevant if the person you shoot works for the gov't or not ~ the parameters of when you can legally shoot someone does not change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    At what point do people have the right to defend themselves: Paul Begala misquotes Joni Ernst and bizarrely misinterprets the rest of her quote. The Washington Monthly blogger Ed Kilgore has asked the right question -- the one any Iowa voter should be putting to Ms. Ernst: "Since you brought it up, exactly what circumstances would justify you shooting a police officer or a soldier in the head?" http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/
    That is easy, if I reasonably believe that government agent intends to do great bodily harm or death on my family or I. IMO when Wilson drew his gun on Brown for JAYWALKING Brown would have been justified to use force.

    The case in Ferguson is a classic example, cop sees young men walking in the street, yells at them. They commit contempt of cop so the officer does a excessive force maneuver of door bumping/slamming. Brown responds by punching officer in face, probably what most of us would do if a civilian did this. Then Wilson pulls gun and attempts to shoot Brown FOR CONTEMPT OF COP AND JAYWALKING.

    After all legal means are exhausted for justice there comes a time when we must defend ourselves from government agents who abuse their power for whatever reason. If Blacks ever embrace the 2A police had better change, or else. I don't condone violence, but these people are being backed into a corner.
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