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    A hilarious "response" to the MPHS shooting

    From some Facebook page:
    I am a Child Psychologist, and know that children who start killing innocent animals early in life, thanks to their hunter parents, will later go on killing other living creatures, including people, very easily, without remorse or guilt. Killing becomes very natural to them, very sad.
    Man, I better watch out for Bill Dance. That guy's been brewing for decades...

    I can't believe the asshattery of that statement.

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    Flat out delusional and disturbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator
    So in actuality you have no evidence that anything wrong took place, you only believe that it could be spun to appear wrong. But it hasn't been. The truth has a funny way of coming out with persistence, even if it was spun negatively the truth would find its way because these people will not accept less.
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    Oh, another claim to authority and credentialism, just like here, cops as authority figures. Lee Paige comes to mind.
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    We have seen similar paradigm shifts in other "scientific" communities over the years. I would not be surprised if the quoted person has those credentials and actually believes the statement. In fact, it makes perfect sense when you consider that similar tactics are used for other causes. If you want to end hunting, connect it to serial killing. It doesn't really matter if the connection is factual or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Truth View Post
    Flat out delusional and disturbing.
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    Strange...I never killed animals when I was young....

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    Note he says 'killed', he doesn't say with what. So what if the parents were aborigines and killed a deer with a spear?

    Arguably, I'd say an urban kid that systematically killed kittens that didn't belong to them with a hammer is more troublesome than one who lived on a farm and drowned some kittens when his parents told him to.

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    I've never killed ANYTHING with a firearm, and I didn't own a sidearm until I was about 4 decades older and gee, I still haven't killed anything with it.

    Now, BB guns and frogs, well, that still kind of upsets me, but 10 year olds will be kids.


    AND, I might add if his thesis were true in any way, there'd be a LOT MORE psychopathic killers, I mean literally billions of them. Numbnuts.
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    Unless I am misremembering my Abnormal Psychology classes, the concern was not about children that killed animals. Those kids were clearly whacko and could be dealt with easily and appropriately.

    It was the kids that tore the wings off flies (especially those that tore off only one wing), who burned just the legs or antennae of insects with a magnifying glass, removed the tail or pectoral fins of fish and returned them to the aquarium, and who did all sorts of disabling/disfiguring stuff to both dolls and small vertebrate pets that were cataloged as "giving everybody the heebie-jeebies" about what they might grow up to do.

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    I don't it's 'torturing insects'. I don't know any kid who hasn't burned bugs with a magnifying glass at least back in the day.

    It's the systematic torturing of higher animals, pets, especially pets not their own.

    Fish, insects, amphibians, birds, reptiles, BB guns, magnifying glass, normal.

    Setting the neighbor's cats on fire because she hollered at them - abnormal, especially if no remorse shown.

    But yeah, where do you draw the line. Maybe if they don't 'grow out of it' by a certain age?

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    It is torture/wanton killing of any sort without remorse.

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wanton
    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/remorse
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    Who amongst us would not still kill a cockroach?

    With winter coming, do you plan and live trapping and relocating field mice?

    How would you conrol termites?

    Being at the top of the food chain includes certain benefits, me thinks.
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    Being at the top (nominally) of the food chain imposes certain burdens of moral self-doubt. Else bliss is ignorance as ignorance is bliss.
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    Hunting does not equate to killing as used by Mr. Psychologist. He's either really dishonest or really dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    With winter coming, do you plan and live trapping and relocating field mice?
    That's a real knee-slapper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator View Post
    Hunting does not equate to killing as used by Mr. Psychologist. He's either really dishonest or really dumb.
    I'm thinking he is both.
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    He does qualify his statement "innocent" animals vs. guilty animals that deserve killin...apparently.
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    Wow! There's a child psych who over extrapolated. Also one of the types who caused me to change careers and leave psychology because the stupid started to burn.
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    Sad part is there are a whole bunch of people that think this way.

    I shot rats at the dump when I was a kid.
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    Odd the generation that grew up with guns and hunting had far less school shootings than the generation of today...

    IMO the downward spiral of young peoples morals has nothing to do with hunting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    Odd the generation that grew up with guns and hunting had far less school shootings than the generation of today. IMO the downward spiral of young peoples morals has nothing to do with hunting.
    Corporal punishment?














    Or wait until they're incorrigible sergeants?
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    Where do people think a lot of COPS and Conservation Officers come from? They come from an upbringing surrounded by the outdoors and gun ownership, and from hunting, safety, and respect for nature and the rule of law. It's paramount that we hunters continue to take our kids hunting and continue to teach safety and conservation. Harvesting game is a part of life, and does not equal "senselessly killing animals." HUGE difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator
    So in actuality you have no evidence that anything wrong took place, you only believe that it could be spun to appear wrong. But it hasn't been. The truth has a funny way of coming out with persistence, even if it was spun negatively the truth would find its way because these people will not accept less.
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    The truth causes some people so much pain they can only respond with impotent laughable insults. Life must be rough for those people.

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    what about people who work in slaughterhouses?

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    The're ok. Except for the vegetarians. Can't trust them....

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