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    Veterans Day approaches. Here's a good video. I Fought For You, from The Sound Tank

    http://www.youtube.com/v/AgYLr_LfhLo...hl=en_US&rel=0

    It was noticed to me by a senior co-worker that missed the accident at SL-1 for the sniffles and retired a CWO helicopter pilot. Now he keeps me appraised of the war in Israel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/v/AgYLr_LfhLo...hl=en_US&rel=0

    It was noticed to me by a senior co-worker that missed the accident at SL-1 for the sniffles and retired a CWO helicopter pilot. Now he keeps me appraised of the war in Israel.
    Yep! This is one of my faves. Seems like it's the grandfathers that have the most need to teach the grandkids, since many of them were in WWII, Korea and Nam. Now, though, we have new generations of fathers who were in the Gulf and Afghanistan who can pass on to their kids the same lessons.

    What we all have in common -- we who served -- are all part of that "Band of Brothers," no matter when or where we served, and is is incumbent on us to pass on that message and to render the honor of a salute to those serving...
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    When I got out of the service, like most others of my time, they just said "there's the door..don't let it hit your bum on the way out"...

    I knew many WWII vets ... most of them did not like people complaining about little things... sad that most of them are gone....but of course, many were democrats too ....

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    Brings a tear to your eyes, as it should
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    Wow! Absolutely shocked at the irony.

    I watched this on youtube and it was preceded by a Northrup Grumman ad. So VERY appropriate. Do they think we are ALL blind?


    "I fought for the Military Industrial Complex".


    Looking into the production of this I find "The Sound Tank" and "Sermon Spice", supposedly Christian entities pushing the religion of Statism and WAR on it's "congregations".


    IMO, a better message would have been for all those "Vets" to look at those children and say "I will NEVER send you off to the hell I had to endure for hidden interests".


    ETA: lol, I just went to show my wife the video and it was a Lockheed Martin ad before it, this time. UNREAL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff. State View Post
    Wow! Absolutely shocked at the irony.

    I watched this on youtube and it was preceded by a Northrup Grumman ad. So VERY appropriate. Do they think we are ALL blind?


    "I fought for the Military Industrial Complex".


    Looking into the production of this I find "The Sound Tank" and "Sermon Spice", supposedly Christian entities pushing the religion of Statism and WAR on it's "congregations".


    IMO, a better message would have been for all those "Vets" to look at those children and say "I will NEVER send you off to the hell I had to endure for hidden interests".


    ETA: lol, I just went to show my wife the video and it was a Lockheed Martin ad before it, this time. UNREAL!
    Inspirational words Jeff .... as always.

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    Oh, it's that time of year again, when we inspire yet more hero worship, and celebrate the end of a world war that the United States had no business whatsoever, being apart of.

    Despite the message that video attempts to convey, no one fought for me, or you, or anyone else. Veterans fought, and died, to ensure the safety, and carry out the whims, of a Federal government who rules not by the consent of the governed, but by the confirmation of idiots, fools, and criminals who make their way to voting booths every couple years, like sheep being led to the slaughter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    SNIP...Veterans fought, and died, to ensure the safety, and carry out the whims, of a Federal government who rules not by the consent of the governed, but by the confirmation of idiots, fools, and criminals who make their way to voting booths every couple years, like sheep being led to the slaughter.
    Well said.
    I've nothing to add other than the reminder that the pledge mentions TWO types of enemies; only one is socially acceptable to address, it seems.
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    Some people just love to live in denial. The best that can be said about any living vets today is that they thought they fought for our freedom. Of course, they did no such thing as even a cursory look at the facts will show. War is the health of the state and its parasites and a racket.
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    This thread is quite parallel with the IQ threads. If one has an IQ or veteran status then they're all for it, not so much otherwise. Indeed, maybe even athiests in foxholes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    This thread is quite parallel with the IQ threads. If one has an IQ or veteran status then they're all for it, not so much otherwise. Indeed, maybe even athiests in foxholes.
    I have both.

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    Well said.
    I've nothing to add other than the reminder that the pledge mentions TWO types of enemies; only one is socially acceptable to address, it seems.
    Yes, I often wonder why no Veterans have upheld their oath and gone to war against the DOMESTIC enemies of the Constitution that have done FAR MORE damage to it and the Nations citizens than any foreign enemy ever has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff. State View Post
    I have both.



    Yes, I often wonder why no Veterans have upheld their oath and gone to war against the DOMESTIC enemies of the Constitution that have done FAR MORE damage to it and the Nations citizens than any foreign enemy ever has.
    Probably the same reason you haven't . With your IQ and veteran status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    Some people just love to live in denial. The best that can be said about any living vets today is that they thought they fought for our freedom. Of course, they did no such thing as even a cursory look at the facts will show. War is the health of the state and its parasites and a racket.
    Ha ha! I joined to rape and pillage ! Mission accomplished (figuratively speaking) squeaky squeaky bang bang ...

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    I thought it was a great video that honored the Vets. Like my dad, who joined the Navy & his high school buddies from Galveston's Ball High that joined the Marines and didn't come back from Korea. To hear Reagan's words about the Ponte du Hoc rangers reminds me of my uncle that was an MP under Patton and never told what he saw when they liberated the Nazi 'work camps'. To think of the men (and women) that have served to protect the Freedom of our country, going all the way back to the militia in the 1750s through today, that is an awesome honor to follow in footsteps of our brave countrymen. Glad to be an American and the blessings I enjoy, it would not be so if those had not served.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPmatt View Post
    I thought it was a great video that honored the Vets. Like my dad, who joined the Navy & his high school buddies from Galveston's Ball High that joined the Marines and didn't come back from Korea. To hear Reagan's words about the Ponte du Hoc rangers reminds me of my uncle that was an MP under Patton and never told what he saw when they liberated the Nazi 'work camps'. To think of the men (and women) that have served to protect the Freedom of our country, going all the way back to the militia in the 1750s through today, that is an awesome honor to follow in footsteps of our brave countrymen. Glad to be an American and the blessings I enjoy, it would not be so if those had not served.
    +1 Matt. Thank you for your kind and cogent words .... unlike some of the responders who have opined that servicemen were just "tools" of corporate and global interests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesCanby View Post
    +1 Matt. Thank you for your kind and cogent words .... unlike some of the responders who have opined that servicemen were just "tools" of corporate and global interests.
    James,
    I was going to private message you, but I want to put this out there for everyone:

    At least a few times on OCDO posts I want to be serious. And this was a time to not beat-around-the-bush about the sacrifice veterans (and their families) have made for this nation, both in giving years of their lives, parts of their bodies, mental wounds of what they have seen and endured, deaths of their buddies, up to those that gave the ultimate sacrifice of their lives. And the anger I feel for the politicians that treat our armed forces like political objects, while they enjoy the fruit of our bloody freedom.... I guess I could be called 'fortunate' to be born in the late 1950s, never required to register for the draft, got out of high school right after end of Viet Nam war, so I never served. As I get older I certainly am wiser and more thankful of all of those who have, and words hardly can express the gratitude for such selfless sacrifice to fight for and keep the freedom along the ideals our founders created here in the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeZ07 View Post
    Oh, it's that time of year again,
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