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    Here's what the Anti's are coming after next......

    Per a source, the anti's are coming after via an Initiative or RCW:

    1. Preemption. They want each city to be able to regulate guns and how and where people carry them. "This one will be accomplished via an Initiative of the People."

    2. Assault Weapons Ban, again via an Initiative.

    3. Magazine Restrictions, 10 round limits or less. Via RCW

    4. Gun lock up, via RCW

    5. May Issue CPL, via Initiative

    This is what I have been told by a reputable source who is in the know via Infiltration. These are the goals. They have donors with deep pockets and Mayors who know how to get the vote out, like Ed Murray said, We made History.

    Well history has a way of repeating itself. Unless we get organized. It's not a matter of supporting the NRA or SAF, yes we need to do that, but what we need are grass root community organizers, who can Educate people and get the vote out.

    We can't depend upon the courts. Appeals take years and in the meantime people become felons.

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    Couldn't agree more.

    The initiative process is ripe for these abuses.

    Remember how they kept saying "background checks are COMMON SENSE" and made it sound so REASONABLE?

    Just imagine how the PR for repealing state pre-emption will be.

    It's only COMMON SENSE to allow communities to draft their own gun laws. Communities know their own local needs best so let them do it. Blah Blah Blah.

    To oppose that they will paint you as a fascist who is against democracy.


    We need to get organized NOW to stop this.

    I already have several good TV and youtube commercial ideas for these:

    pre-emption: guy driving down the street, gets pulled over by a cop who asks if he has a gun, guy says yes, cop says "don't you know you just crossed over into XXXXXXX city? Loaded guns in cars are illegal here. You're going to jail." Or similar scenario with someone walking along on a sidewalk.

    "assault weapons ban:" Show an old rifle breaking and a guy reinforcing it with an iron rod and some duct tape then a police officer arresting him and telling him he now has an "illegal assault weapon." Also, start showing pictures of AR-15s with hunting rifle stocks that were created in NY to get around the ban. Or show someone duct-taping a wooden handle to a long-barreled revolver.
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    And toilet paper being hung so that it rolls out from the top !

    You want democracy .. you got it !

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    The Seattle PI just had an article that the "gun safety" people had a postelection rally to send a "we're not done" message.
    They've always been clear that they want the maximum firearm restrictions possible up to and including banning all civilian ownership.
    Since this little victory, I imagine they think they'll be able to ride it on to further restrict us.
    Whether or not that list is genuine doesn't matter. All those things have been on their to-ban list for a long time, and now they think they have the political climate to do it.
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    One thing that occurred to me recently, is that the biggest problem we have when challenging something in court on constitutional grounds is that the courts treat different rights differently. As if "shall not be infringed" means different things when discussing different rights, despite the document they are written into being written by the same people at the same time.

    This is why the US Supreme Court keeps applying a VERY broad reading of the first amendment and a very narrow reading of the second.

    It might be interesting to get a law passed (though it might need to be a constitutional amendment) requiring the courts to use the same standard of scrutiny for all constitutional and civil rights that they use for any of them.

    True, it could backfire -- but given how dedicated the courts are to freedom of speech and expression, a backfire is unlikely.

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    If I were a Democrat party elected official, I would have no fear of the NRA or any other gun rights organization at this point. 60% in favor of I594. This would tell me that the NRA, et al, are paper tigers, and I have nothing to fear by passing gun control legislation in this state.

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    Washington.................

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    Gun prohibitionists emboldened, salivating over Washington

    An emboldened gun prohibition lobby, supported by media cheerleaders, is still celebrating its gun control victory in Washington State with the passage of Initiative 594, calling it a “game changer” late yesterday in USA Today, and another story published elsewhere was headlined “Bill Gates Beats NRA, Washington State Passes Strict Gun Control Law.”

    http://www.examiner.com/article/gun-...ver-washington

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanf View Post
    If I were a Democrat party elected official, I would have no fear of the NRA or any other gun rights organization at this point. 60% in favor of I594. This would tell me that the NRA, et al, are paper tigers, and I have nothing to fear by passing gun control legislation in this state.
    that 60% only cost bloomberg $12m. and that despite the claim that "90% support background checks". if it were really true, it would have been even more a landslide. this is an important data point in itself.

    what it tells me is that background checks are not nearly as widely supported as believed. also, elected officials still fear the NRA. initiatives are a completely different thing from state legislation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Workman View Post
    Gun prohibitionists emboldened, salivating over Washington

    An emboldened gun prohibition lobby, supported by media cheerleaders, is still celebrating its gun control victory in Washington State with the passage of Initiative 594, calling it a “game changer” late yesterday in USA Today, and another story published elsewhere was headlined “Bill Gates Beats NRA, Washington State Passes Strict Gun Control Law.”

    http://www.examiner.com/article/gun-...ver-washington
    Hey Dave: You and Alan enjoying yourselves?


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    "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."


    The "Majority" in Washington state appears to be in disagreement with this. If you don't like that, don't expect the courts, lawmakers, etc. to change it for you.

    Too bad the Constitution has become virtually meaningless from Coast to Coast.


    Democracy rules, in AmeriKa today.

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