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    Robbery stopped by armed customer - customer releases robber from custody?

    A robbery was stopped as soon as it began by an armed customer, but the customer, not knowing the extent of his authority to detain the suspect, told him to get out and don't come back.

    http://www.kens5.com/story/news/crim...bery/18841373/

    It is unfortunate that the customer allowed the suspect to leave.

    Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, Chapter 14 Arrest Without Warrant http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.u...R.14.htm#14.01
    Art. 14.01. OFFENSE WITHIN VIEW. (a) A peace officer or any other person, may, without a warrant, arrest an offender when the offense is committed in his presence or within his view, if the offense is one classed as a felony or as an offense against the public peace.

    (b) A peace officer may arrest an offender without a warrant for any offense committed in his presence or within his view.
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    Maybe he knew the thief ? Stranger things have happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Maybe he knew the thief ? Stranger things have happened.
    I had not considered that, it's certainly not something that we can rule out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Maybe he knew the thief ?
    This occurring in San Antonio, maybe the man had Voted for the thief.
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    If the customer had not told the guy to leave, if the robber decided to make a run for it, I wonder what level of force the customer would have been allowed to use to hold him.
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    Beginning January 1, 2017--Private person's use of force in making an arrest.

    http://moga.mo.gov/mostatutes/stathtml/56300000511.html
    There is a fine line between unlawful confinement/detainment or kidnapping and a citizen's arrest.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    There is a fine line between unlawful confinement/detainment or kidnapping and a citizen's arrest.
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    Go to the TexasCHLforum. The person who was the CHL holder posted what happened and why he let the perp run. His explanation is based on the IMMEDIATE safety of others in the immediate vicinity.
    I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do those things to other people and I require the same of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldCurlyWolf View Post
    Go to the TexasCHLforum. The person who was the CHL holder posted what happened and why he let the perp run. His explanation is based on the IMMEDIATE safety of others in the immediate vicinity.
    I'd rather not go there... Could you quote the explanation here?
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    Without details he did what I would have done, I am no longer a cop, not my job. Stop the threat, and I don't care what the threat does after that. In fact the threat leaving the scene to me is optimal, takes me and mine out of danger.

    A few others and I have made it clear that we do not carry to get the bad guy.
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