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    Police got my info from youtube

    I posted a OC vid on Jul 13, 2014 on YouTube and Cincinnati police call me about 3 weeks ago.
    The Lt said they had my name, number and E-mail address.
    I didn't give them my mane or ID and they did not see my car.
    She said their computer dept. had got it.
    My question is wouldn't they need a warrant to get this type of personal info or does YouTube
    just give your info out? Or did they hack my account?
    I looked and didn't see anything in their Terms of Service about this but I could of missed it.
    I am looking into a FOIA request.



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    Talk to a local attorney. It would be very intersting to know how they obtained information about you. Viewing the video may provide some clues. Look beyond the focal points of the video. Listen beyond the primary speakers to the background noises/voices. They are cops after all. Then again, you could have been "snitched on" if you will. Not enough info to be of much assistance. Good luck.

    On another note, there is a remedy to having your information obtained by the cops via the interwebz. I personally do not post anything on the interwebz...ever.
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    Why do you presume that your infor came particularly from You Tube? But, yes, American providers generally take little effort to protect personal information. I'll look at Google-You Tube's comittment to privacy. EFF.org is your best resource for privacy. https://www.eff.org/search/site/google
    For legal reasons

    We will share personal information with companies, organizations or individuals outside of Google if we have a good-faith belief that access, use, preservation or disclosure of the information is reasonably necessary to:
    • meet any applicable law, regulation, legal process or enforceable governmental request.
    • enforce applicable Terms of Service, including investigation of potential violations.
    • detect, prevent, or otherwise address fraud, security or technical issues.
    • protect against harm to the rights, property or safety of Google, our users or the public as required or permitted by law.
    https://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/privacy/
    Google-You Tube does not resist government intrusion at all.
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    Well, if they asked google/youtube for information ~ they would have done this via some written instrument.

    Available under a record request unless, possibly ~ depends on your open records act, the investigation is ongoing...something your would want to know about anyways.

    Also ask for a record that they would have to give out ... like a phone directory .. that way you'll have a record that they got your request..

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Well, if they asked google/youtube for information ~ they would have done this via some written instrument.[ ... ]
    Nope. Google-You Tube will respond to an enforceable request by telephone if it is enforceable by your written instrument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps1mhd View Post
    I posted a OC vid on Jul 13, 2014 on YouTube and Cincinnati police call me about 3 weeks ago.
    The Lt said they had my name, number and E-mail address.
    I didn't give them my mane or ID and they did not see my car.
    She said their computer dept. had got it.
    My question is wouldn't they need a warrant to get this type of personal info or does YouTube
    just give your info out? Or did they hack my account?
    I looked and didn't see anything in their Terms of Service about this but I could of missed it.
    I am looking into a FOIA request.



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    So why the courtesy call? Just to tell you they have your info? Or to advise you they are filling charges?
    "The wicked flee when no man persueth: but the righteous are as bold as a lion" Proverbs 28:1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    So why the courtesy call? Just to tell you they have your info? Or to advise you they are filling charges?
    To confirm id. And to know he'll answer the phone.

    The obvious error was creating a YouTube/Google account with a real name. To track down a user info from a video may or may not be unreasonable, depending upon the reason why. IA, lawsuit, whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb View Post
    To confirm id. And to know he'll answer the phone.

    The obvious error was creating a YouTube/Google account with a real name. To track down a user info from a video may or may not be unreasonable, depending upon the reason why. IA, lawsuit, whatever.
    Seems fishy... So the officer just randomly calls the guy to say hi I know who you are?

    And if he created the account with a real name as the username then it'd be easy to find him. Like if the username was JoeSnuffy21 and his name is Joe Snuffy then easy to find.
    "The wicked flee when no man persueth: but the righteous are as bold as a lion" Proverbs 28:1

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    Why would CPD be contacting a dude 40+ mile away from Cinnci, in KY is a better question. CPD...pfft...if ya don't go to Cinnci. What the retort should have been is that the OP simply said back atcha copper...see ya in court.
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    Somebody just screwin' w your mind? Friends playing a prank?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    So why the courtesy call? Just to tell you they have your info? Or to advise you they are filling charges?
    I would suspect it isn't a "courtesy" at all, but a message to the effect, "We know who you are and where to find you. We can kick down your door anytime we want. Go ahead and post something else."

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    Police got my info from youtube

    Are the activities depicted in the video legal in that jurisdiction ? If so, who cares if they know who made the video? Though I do agree it is curious they would call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterNSteinmetz View Post
    Are the activities depicted in the video legal in that jurisdiction ? If so, who cares if they know who made the video? Though I do agree it is curious they would call.
    So who wants to bet me a box of donuts there's more to this story?

    Here's my guess.... OP takes video and posts it. Probably of an arrest or police encounter. Activity may or may not be legal. The PD starts investigation into possibly charging him. They call him in regards to investigation they started based on incident.
    "The wicked flee when no man persueth: but the righteous are as bold as a lion" Proverbs 28:1

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    It's very easy to get personal information from YouTube, all you have to do is submit a fake DMCA claim. Once that claim goes through and your victim disputes the claim, YouTube sends you everything they got on them.

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    This appears to be the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fydqr-k1Ex4
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    His comment from YouTube:

    UPDATE: 24 OCT 2014 Cincinnati PD LT. called me She said she had talked with the Sgt.
    and informed him of the open carry laws. He had been working as a investigator and just been promoted to Sgt. and asked if I wanted to make a complaint I said no that I was ok with him learning from this.
    She also said she has worked events and has seen me at some of them???
    How does she know what I look like???
    She also said after I asked that there computer people had got my name, phone # and E-mail address Big Brother is watching 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack House View Post
    It's very easy to get personal information from YouTube, all you have to do is submit a fake DMCA claim. Once that claim goes through and your victim disputes the claim, YouTube sends you everything they got on them.
    Have you done this ? I am now curious to see if this can work. Remember though that when you file a copyright claim you have to give all of your information and I believe you are certifying, under penalty of perjury, that your claim is valid. I believe this is legally binding and if you lie its criminal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by END_THE_FED View Post
    This appears to be the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fydqr-k1Ex4
    You sure? If so, idiot cop. Wow.
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    So in actuality you have no evidence that anything wrong took place, you only believe that it could be spun to appear wrong. But it hasn't been. The truth has a funny way of coming out with persistence, even if it was spun negatively the truth would find its way because these people will not accept less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    So why the courtesy call? Just to tell you they have your info? Or to advise you they are filling charges?
    This is what I posted in the Ohio post when I got the call.

    Cincinnati PD LT. called ME She said she had talked with the Sgt.
    and informed him of the open carry laws. He had been working as a investigator and just been promoted to Sgt. and asked if I wanted to make a complaint I said no that I was ok with him learning from this.
    She also said she has worked events and has seen me at some of them
    How does she know what I look like
    She also said after I asked that there computer people had got my name, phone # and E-mail address.
    Big Brother is watching

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    Quote Originally Posted by END_THE_FED View Post
    This appears to be the video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fydqr-k1Ex4


    That's it.

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by NosePicker View Post
    Have you done this ? I am now curious to see if this can work. Remember though that when you file a copyright claim you have to give all of your information and I believe you are certifying, under penalty of perjury, that your claim is valid. I believe this is legally binding and if you lie its criminal.
    You are mistaken. There is no punishment for filing false DMCA claims.

    Look it up, they're used constantly as anticompetitive weapon.

    Also this: http://m.slashdot.org/story/209471
    Last edited by Jack House; 11-13-2014 at 07:38 AM. Reason: Added quote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack House View Post
    You are mistaken. There is no punishment for filing false DMCA claims.

    Look it up, they're used constantly as anticompetitive weapon.
    https://www.eff.org/takedowns DMCA abuse

    The DMCA is the industry's response to discovering that their market regards the product as worth stealing only. In a free market, the artist does not set the cost of the product.
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    Dallas, is a little far from Cincy, but would think an OC meet up & BBQ w/b nice to have in that pretty park.
    Maybe on a sunny day since it w/b about 20deg over next few weeks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps1mhd View Post
    That's it.

    Mike
    I saw this posted here before ... stupid cop .. want to annoy a person legally carrying a gun? Now that's a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps1mhd View Post
    This is what I posted in the Ohio post when I got the call.

    Cincinnati PD LT. called ME She said she had talked with the Sgt.
    and informed him of the open carry laws. He had been working as a investigator and just been promoted to Sgt. and asked if I wanted to make a complaint I said no that I was ok with him learning from this.
    She also said she has worked events and has seen me at some of them
    How does she know what I look like
    She also said after I asked that there computer people had got my name, phone # and E-mail address.
    Big Brother is watching
    Maybe the cops caught you on body cam or dash cam and related it back to incident. Onthe one hand they tracked you down reminding us how not anonymous most of the web is. On the other they followed up to see if you wanted to file complaint. You said learning exp. Good for both sides on that.
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