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    "pro-gun myths fact check".... Have fun with this one guys.

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    "Here, law abiding citizen, jump through these hoops so we can keep people who do not jump through hoops from jumping through these hoops."

    Another article painting all gun owners as law breaking scum.

    I'm not even going to dignify this rubbish with a rebuttal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator
    So in actuality you have no evidence that anything wrong took place, you only believe that it could be spun to appear wrong. But it hasn't been. The truth has a funny way of coming out with persistence, even if it was spun negatively the truth would find its way because these people will not accept less.
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    The truth causes some people so much pain they can only respond with impotent laughable insults. Life must be rough for those people.

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    sounds like people who don't own guns are being shot by criminals....sounds like a case for more households to get guns...

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    From the article: "Fact-check: Mass shootings stopped by armed civilians in the past 30 years: 0"

    Because gun-free zones. Asshat article.

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    LOL Another hit of MJ from NORML, pffwwt!, groovey man. Pass the Fritos.
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    When you cite statistics about preventing mass shootings it kind of reminds me of a time travel paradox.

    If you in anyway prevent a mass shooting, then the mass shooting never takes place and therefore is not counted in the statistics about mass shootings.

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    Succinct!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lockman View Post
    When you cite statistics about preventing mass shootings it kind of reminds me of a time travel paradox.

    If you in anyway prevent a mass shooting, then the mass shooting never takes place and therefore is not counted in the statistics about mass shootings.
    Can't be explained any better than this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Magna vero absurditas and that is the least of their weaknesses.
    To coin a phrase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lockman View Post
    When you cite statistics about preventing mass shootings it kind of reminds me of a time travel paradox.

    If you in anyway prevent a mass shooting, then the mass shooting never takes place and therefore is not counted in the statistics about mass shootings.
    This makes too much sense. arrrrrrrggggg!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    LOL Another hit of MJ from NORML, pffwwt!, groovey man. Pass the Fritos.
    What does marijuana or NORML have to do with the article?
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    Quote Originally Posted by END_THE_FED View Post
    What does marijuana or NORML have to do with the article?
    How long have you been reading Mother Jones?
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    No, seriously. Where's the connection?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator
    So in actuality you have no evidence that anything wrong took place, you only believe that it could be spun to appear wrong. But it hasn't been. The truth has a funny way of coming out with persistence, even if it was spun negatively the truth would find its way because these people will not accept less.
    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    The truth causes some people so much pain they can only respond with impotent laughable insults. Life must be rough for those people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    How long have you been reading Mother Jones?
    Do you always answer questions with another question?

    To answer your question other than the link the OP posted I don't recall reading anything from Mother Jones, I may have read another article or two but I certainty have not read anything often enough to be at all familiar with them.

    I ask again, what does marijuana and NORML have to do with the article?
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    Myth #4: More good guys with guns can stop rampaging bad guys.
    Fact-check: Mass shootings stopped by armed civilians in the past 30 years: 0
    • Chances that a shooting at an ER involves guns taken from guards: 1 in 5
    http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/24/12405148/
    http://blog.uritraining.com/?p=88

    Wow that took me 2 minutes to rebut.

    1 The killing of a felon, during the commission of a felony, by a private citizen.


    The article only addressed FELONS being KILLED while committing a crime.

    What about all the crimes that are not reported or the criminals are not killed?

    That whole article is BS.
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    Didn't read it, though it did garner 1 post and 15 additional posts. Must be worth something it seems. Clicks are clicks as they say.
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